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  1. [QUOTE=Angela;661244] The man looks distinctly...

    The man looks distinctly Italian.
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    I have stated several times that Classical Greeks...

    I have stated several times that Classical Greeks plot either close to Mycenaeans or a bit more northern. Perhaps though we didn't have enough Mycenaean specimens to establish that. There was one...
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    There is a source which is responsible for...

    There is a source which is responsible for Paleo-Balkanic input (accompanied with more Steppe ancestry) into mainland Greece. The islands and the Peloponnese are largely excempt from this source...
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    Would really like to compare Theopetra and...

    Would really like to compare Theopetra and Sarakenos to modern populations. And also o Iron Age Paeonians, Illyrians and Logas. I wonder if the 'Balkans' encirclement includes mainland Greece. Seems...
  5. Ofcourse, regionalism is in decline all over...

    Ofcourse, regionalism is in decline all over Europe. But at much faster speed compared to what it was decades ago. Greece is no exception. Back in the day there weren't even roads to connect...
  6. Americans with 30% SSA ancestry are also...

    Americans with 30% SSA ancestry are also considered black. And the average of SSA American who is 70% African does not even speak an African language, nor do they inhabit the continent of Africa, nor...
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    Thrace is bordering Anatolia. There could have...

    Thrace is bordering Anatolia. There could have been constant migration from Anatolia into Thrace. Resulting to Mycenaean-like Thracians. Proto-Greek speakers however could have entered through the...
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    They are still pulled towards Mycenaeans, who...

    They are still pulled towards Mycenaeans, who were approx 15% steppe, but these ones are more like 18% to 25%. I think Crete_Armenoi (also higher in Steppe) was somewhat neglected in the earlier...
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    No, the Greek speakers came earlier than assumed....

    No, the Greek speakers came earlier than assumed. And they did come from the North. Why Mycenaeans had less steppe is also a puzzle to me. Perhaps people with less steppe also arrived in Greece. From...
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    So the Ottoman individuals carried higher Turkic...

    So the Ottoman individuals carried higher Turkic admixture than modern Turks do on average.

    In the Early Bronze Age the EHG levels in Greece were up to 25%. In contrary to the MBA Mycenaeans who...
  11. There surely were different populations within...

    There surely were different populations within Greece. Yet I for one doubt that E-V13 was completely absent early on in the Greek peninsula. But I can't discard that it was more dominant in the...
  12. It's not going to be luck if I turn out to be...

    It's not going to be luck if I turn out to be right. We know that Greeks founded, settled and inhabited Nicaea. They were speaking Greek in that city. And autosomically they were Aegean peoples. Not...
  13. How can we know it's Thracian? We don't have...

    How can we know it's Thracian? We don't have specimens from Ancient Greece. And also take note that Nicaea was colonized from North Greeks. We have zero specimens from North Greeks so far. Besides,...
  14. It's unlikely that E-V13 just appears like like a...

    It's unlikely that E-V13 just appears like like a newly arrived migrant to a Cosmopolitan city. During that time, Nicaea was days of travel away from Constantinople. Being near that place in modern...
  15. Going to make a bald prediction. I believe that...

    Going to make a bald prediction. I believe that E-V13 is centered in Central to Northern Greece (Thessaly, Macedonia, Epirus). The people there influenced people around them. South Greeks, Illyrians,...
  16. Clearly Himera is a mixed population. The ones...

    Clearly Himera is a mixed population. The ones who are suspected to be Greek and Mycenaean-like are pulled towards the local Sicilians. As such, it is difficult to pinpoint where exactly the...
  17. This whole Greekness thing of the Ancient...

    This whole Greekness thing of the Ancient Macedonians is overblown by modern political agenda's and competing nationalisms of modern Balkan nations.

    I don't even care about the fact that they...
  18. Pelagonia was populated by Molossians when it was...

    Pelagonia was populated by Molossians when it was annexed by the Macedonans during the Classical Age. I don't know exactly if the Molossians were inhabiting the area during the Iron Age as well. The...
  19. You are missing the point. Macedonian samples are...

    You are missing the point. Macedonian samples are only Macedonian until we have Macedonian samples and not Paeonian.

    Furthermore, the Paeonian samples which are compared to Mycenaeans are from a...
  20. The alternatives would have been arbitrary...

    The alternatives would have been arbitrary indeed. But labeling them Ancient Macedonian is simply false.
  21. I wouldn't be surprised that Hellenistic people...

    I wouldn't be surprised that Hellenistic people from Macedonia proper plot closer to Mycenaean peoples. For starters, unlike the South Illyrians, the Macedonians inhabited an area next to the Aegean....
  22. Why do you refer to an IA Thraco-Illyrian sample...

    Why do you refer to an IA Thraco-Illyrian sample as Ancient Macedonian? Let's keep it historically accurate.

    I am delighted that we have IA samples from that region. So it plots close to the...
  23. I think most people left the city, including the...

    I think most people left the city, including the people who belonged to the Levant. But they were probably dissolved in Italy. Some elites must have migrated to Constantinople.
  24. As some argued correctly. Current geographical...

    As some argued correctly. Current geographical North Macedonia was not inhabited by Ancient Macedonians. But what people missed out on, is that during the Iron Age (dating of NorthMac samples) there...
  25. All empires die from within they say. First the...

    All empires die from within they say. First the city decayed, then it was sacked. Same is true for Constantinople. It was a mere shadow of its former self when it was conquered by the Ottomans.
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