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  1. People who imagine Mesolithic hunter-gatherers...

    People who imagine Mesolithic hunter-gatherers looking like modern populations should take a good look at this new PCA from the Allentoft et al pre-print:

    https://i.imgur.com/dXFPkHf.png
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    Don foragers could have some WHG that is "eating"...

    Don foragers could have some WHG that is "eating" into later populations' WHG ancestry. But Boncuklu was also WHG-shifted compared to Barcin if I remember the PCA from that paper correctly.
  3. Not to be a party pooper, but these are most...

    Not to be a party pooper, but these are most likely based on the HIrisPlex prediction system, so they're to be taken with a grain of salt. Likelihood of blonde hair seems to be overestimated by this...
  4. Well, we can't be sure, but the country...

    Well, we can't be sure, but the country distribution (Balkans, Anatolia, Caucasus) looks similar to the modern distribution of R-Z2103 and I-L699, which are the Yamnaya clades. Yfull is also missing...
  5. 23andMe is the most accurate, but not without its...

    23andMe is the most accurate, but not without its own problems (for example, assigning lots of Italian ancestry to Greeks). AncestryDNA is also decent, especially since they added their Aegean...
  6. It's not perfect of course, Cypriots need an...

    It's not perfect of course, Cypriots need an additional Anatolian and/or Levantine source (hence the higher distance).


    https://i.imgur.com/4zZwff3.png
  7. You won't see anything like Helladic_MBA in LBA,...

    You won't see anything like Helladic_MBA in LBA, archaic, classical or Hellenistic Greece, trust me.
  8. I wasn't responding to you, sorry if it wasn't...

    I wasn't responding to you, sorry if it wasn't clear. I don't think this East Asian ancestry persists in modern Hungarians, no.
  9. Sticky: 2-way results per age, only included distances...

    2-way results per age, only included distances under 4.

    Epipaleolithic to Chalcolithic:



    Distance to:
    pelop
  10. The European cline from this paper appears...

    The European cline from this paper appears continuous (it doesn't have gaps) which hints at admixture between the "EU Cores". Similar to what we've seen in the Olalde et al pre-print, where there...
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    G-Z16775 is under G-L497, the most common G2a...

    G-Z16775 is under G-L497, the most common G2a subclade in central/western/northern Europe. The L497 mutation must have happened somewhere in Central Europe and your haplogroup is definitely a lot...
  12. Yes, there is a Χαρβάτι (Harvati) in Argolis and...

    Yes, there is a Χαρβάτι (Harvati) in Argolis and also in Attica. But for this toponym it's possible it was brought by Albanian-speakers, since areas in both Argolis and Attica were settled by them....
  13. Curious fact: there is a place called Χλέβενα...

    Curious fact: there is a place called Χλέβενα (Chlevena) in Laconia in the Peloponnese. Unlike other Slavic toponyms this doesn't seem to exist anywhere else in Greece. Close to a village called...
  14. We've been hearing these arguments about the...

    We've been hearing these arguments about the countryside for years, "cities are sinks", "the cosmopolitan urbanites disappeared", etc. And yet the Etruscan paper shows that modern Tuscans carry...
  15. Which Thessalian Greeks with "high steppe...

    Which Thessalian Greeks with "high steppe admixture" are you talking about? They may have existed at some point but we need to see them first. The theory of "rural, unadmixed, high-steppe" Greeks...
  16. First of all, there's no reason to use HRV_EBA...

    First of all, there's no reason to use HRV_EBA and HRV_MBA when we have HRV_IA. Unless you think there's genetic continuity in the Dalmatian region from the Early Bronze Age..

    Just like modern...
  17. The distances in the Italian model you posted are...

    The distances in the Italian model you posted are bad. And that's on g25 which isn't a formal tool, so obviously this model would fail with qpAdm. I can't post links at the moment in this forum, but...
  18. Did you read the paper? It's obvious that between...

    Did you read the paper? It's obvious that between the Iron Age and the late Roman Imperial times, there was a significant East Med/Anatolian shift in the Balkans. Exactly when and how it happened, we...
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    It would be helpful for you guys to investigate...

    It would be helpful for you guys to investigate how 23andMe's region-assigning algorithm works. Long story short, the reason so many Balkanites get Peloponnese as their top region (or one of the top)...
  20. Why is it ironic? Isn't this how any admixture...

    Why is it ironic? Isn't this how any admixture event works?
  21. This Slavic-related ancestry in the islands was...

    This Slavic-related ancestry in the islands was obviously mediated by mainland Greeks over the last 10+ centuries.
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    I don't care about nationalist bs but what's so...

    I don't care about nationalist bs but what's so strange about the Greek dude in the YouTube video you posted? He looks like a typical Mediterranean who has grown a big beard.
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    I think this is mostly due to with their...

    I think this is mostly due to with their ancestral components' percentages being similar after PCA analysis. It doesn't necessarily mean recent common heritage. Lots of Greeks and Italians plot close...
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    The confidence levels seem like... they're not...

    The confidence levels seem like... they're not working yet? I have a 1,7% "English" component which I assume is noise but it stays the same even with confidence level set to high.
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    Haven't read all the posts here but I find it...

    Haven't read all the posts here but I find it problematic the paper didn't attempt any comparisons with the neighbouring Slavophone populations: North Macedonians and Bulgarians. Was there any...
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