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Thank you, Pax.
In fact, adding Sardinia makes everything more realistic.
Although I can see that the G25 really accentuates my 'Greek'/southeastern European side

(Simulated-No Sardinia)
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Unlike other calculators and oracles, the G25 always tends to add a proximity or a "Ligurian" component to me, while in the combos the recurring "ingredients" become Lombardy and Greece


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Mine: I suppose that since there are no samples from Emilia and Romagna, the results are a little more unusual and work with more atypical averages and combos



Distance to:
Dodecadk12bStuvanè...

Mine (merging part 1 + part 2 + Viking world by Salento)



Distance to:
Dodecadk12bStuvanè


3.53970338
I23205_M_Serbia_Mokrin_EBA_Maros_cov-72%

Mine, adding SRB_Iron_Gates_HunterGatherer_outlier and Progress_CHG_Simulated



Distance to:
G25Stuvanè_scaled


0.11485901
Anatolia_10KYA:TUR_Boncuklu_N

Distance to:
G25_Stuvanè_scaled


0.11485901
Anatolia_10KYA:TUR_Boncuklu_N


0.13668156
Anatolia_10KYA:TUR_Pinarbasi_HG

My results



Distance to:
G25Stuvanè_scaled


0.11516288
West_Eurasian:TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N

They also managed to remove the versions that Pax pointed out to us, those uploaded to Web Archive.


As things stand, I would say that they have gone much further than the invitation not to be...

Distance to:
Dodecadk12bStuvanè


28.61736361
Anatolian_BA:I2495:Lazaridis_2017


28.69391573
Anatolian_BA:I2499:Lazaridis_2017

Based on Jovialis coordinates - post #12




Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 2.7450% / 2.74500617 | ADC: 0.25x RC

@Stefano

I'm from Romagna and Ferrara.

Regarding our similarity with the Szolad specimens, I will die with the doubt of knowing if they were individuals of mixed roots (Lombards / Germans +...

The subject is fascinating, but also tremendously complicated and I'm no expert.
Often in order to understand and review that historical period, I see this short animation, imo really well done :)
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Maybe some J's really made it up in the Balkans in the Ottoman era.
Defining it then as "Ottoman" / "Turkish" could be difficult since above all the J2 is in some way "indigenous" to the pre-Turkish...

If you are using the Dodecadk12b set on Vahaduo that Jovialis is talking about this is me



Distance to:
Dodecadk12bStuvanè


3.43011662
Szolad31:Amorim_2018

@Hjiju6
@Archetype0ne,

clearly even the Sardinians have not remained untouched by introgressions, there has been a Roman contribution and even before that they are also reached by Middle Eastern...

For what very little I know, I believe that the only 2 samples that can be traced back to the Hittites for now (or a Hittite context between the 19th and 16th centuries BC) are MA2200 and and MA2203...

Hi Archetype0ne,


unfortunately when I took my test with 23andMe nearly 10 years ago, it didn't return any subclades to me. A laconic J-M172 remains on my file. I have never booked any other test...

Beyond the fact that some reconstructions may be questionable and made with some bias too much in mind, you must still consider that those portrayed are warriors in the middle of the Iron Age, when...

Which pictures?

I'm not an expert in these matters either, but IMO - for both historical and genetic reasons - the hypothesis of an introgression of ancient Caucasian/Iranian groups onto a broad Levantine substratum...

Here we are :)



Distance to:
G25_Stuvanè_scaled


0.08330617
Halstatt/Early_Le_Tene:FRA_Alsace_IA1:NOR2B6

Distance to:
G25_Stuvanè_scaled


0.03162429
Balkan_IA_West:HRV_IA


0.03992107
Italic_Etruscan_IA:ITA_Etruscan

Very trivially: people superficially look at where Albania is geographically located, and since it's so close to Puglia they think their respective peoples also occupy similar genetic positions. But...

Ancient

Individuals



Distance to:
Stuvanè_scaled

This makes sense. Certainly the combo of your Ligurian/Northwestern and Central Italian origins is something that can "simulate" a "Tuscan" position in some oracles.


I don't feel like ruling...