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  1. Sticky: The 2-way models for my Greek friend and his...

    The 2-way models for my Greek friend and his mother. Not amazing fits though

    Can someone help me "read" the results ? My friend usually plots like a slightly Caucasus/Anatolian shifted Smyrniot/NE...
  2. Then how can the presence of North Germanic Y-dna...

    Then how can the presence of North Germanic Y-dna clades in the Balkans be explained ?
    (small percentages of I-Z58, I-L22, R1b-U106 etc... )
  3. I think I recall reading a post here giving the...

    I think I recall reading a post here giving the percentage of R1b-U106 in non Slavic Balkan peoples ( Greeks, Albanians ) as an example of the very small contribution (in comparison with the Slavic)...
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    Where is your paternal ancestry from ?

    Where is your paternal ancestry from ?
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    Being a lurker (and then member) for years here...

    Being a lurker (and then member) for years here and in other similar forums where the same banned members used to frequent I have to say that being obssesed with others (mostly Greeks but also other...
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    The islands of the Saronic Gulf, the South of...

    The islands of the Saronic Gulf, the South of Euboea, The northern half of Andros and in parts of Kerkyra and of one or a couple more of the rest of the Ionian islands. That's all of the...
  7. Probably from a couple of maps about Balkans and...

    Probably from a couple of maps about Balkans and Italy showing the percentages of Slavic and Germanic lineages respectively made by a user called Pasha if I recall correctly. Can't remember if he...
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    Just found out that he shares segments with my...

    Just found out that he shares segments with my friend's Greek non bio grandfather, 21.5cM total and 12.2cM the largest segment. That's cool I guess. So either he has some Tosk/Southern Albanian...
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    About this Mirdita guy, let's just say I managed...

    About this Mirdita guy, let's just say I managed to find his kit and his results are not only genuine but a lot of his matches (most of the top matches too ) are Albanians too. One of his top...
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    But Peloponnesians as Serbs do carry native...

    But Peloponnesians as Serbs do carry native paleobalkan admixture which in this 2-way model can only be expressed by inflating the latter...
    It rises by almost 15 points if you choose Serbs instead...
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    Interesting results! He looks like Greek/Italian...

    Interesting results! He looks like Greek/Italian shifted compared to others, I wonder if it's due to relatively lower Baltic and higher East Med compared to other Albanians (13.52 and 26.22...
  12. I picked the samples from the modern+ancient...

    I picked the samples from the modern+ancient scaled averages from the relevant g25 calculator and the calculator itself from
    vahaduo[dot]genetics[dot]ovh
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    Can you post your coordinates ?

    Can you post your coordinates ?
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    Interesting! Have you thought about uploading...

    Interesting!
    Have you thought about uploading your data to YFull too ?
  15. It's just a model that ihype02 requested to do, I...

    It's just a model that ihype02 requested to do, I didn't choose the components.
  16. Using these 3 for modelling modern Bulgarians ?...

    Using these 3 for modelling modern Bulgarians ? But what should be used for Thracians ? BGR_IA ?
    If that's so then this is how can they be modeled



    Target: Bulgarian
    Distance: 1.2283% /...
  17. Almost the same results with similar distances...

    Almost the same results with similar distances for every population




    Target: Serbian
    Distance: 1.6148% / 0.01614801
  18. Other ancient samples and obviously a 3 or more...

    Other ancient samples and obviously a 3 or more -way model would be much more suitable but with this in mind it's as follows if I understood correctly your request :




    Target:...
  19. THANK YOU! Different...

    THANK YOU!




    Different methodologies/models...different sample sizes...different samples in general...

    Also by using your logic, if the new study came first would the Stamatoyannopoulos...
  20. How can you say that one claim rejects the other...

    How can you say that one claim rejects the other when not only the samples for one were much more thoroughly and rigorously collected and categorized but there is also variation in the sample size ?...
  21. ??? On the Peloponnesian study it's about...

    ???
    On the Peloponnesian study it's about shared ancestry with modern populations, or at least this info is represented on the models. On this study 2-way models using ancient and or modern ones...
  22. Here we go again with the Fallmerayer theories......

    Here we go again with the Fallmerayer theories...
    I can't understand this obsession with us in EVERY paper even tangentially related to us, or not, and with the same pattern too...
    Every discussion...
  23. I used the respective averages from G25 (Greek...

    I used the respective averages from G25 (Greek Peloponnese, Greek Macedonia, Albania, Polish, BGR_IA, Ingria_IA) and made a 2-way model like the paper but changing between Ingria_IA and Polish ->...
  24. Well yes... obviously using populations like...

    Well yes... obviously using populations like Poles and Ukrainians harboring additional admixture (celtic+germanic and possibly others too ? ) that can also be found in varying proportions in the...
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    One also has to account for -The internal...

    One also has to account for
    -The internal migrations during the centuries before the completion of the Ottoman conquest of Peloponnese and after it.
    -The external migrations to places like South...
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