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  1. Thread: Magna Graecia

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    The study shows there is affinity between Croatia...

    The study shows there is affinity between Croatia and Picene. However, I didn't caught details on her birth.

    Nevertheless, This lends support to my argument that the North Balkans, was North...
  2. Thread: Magna Graecia

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    This is a joke, not even worth of my time. ...

    This is a joke, not even worth of my time.


    Also here is the only modeling that makes sense for R850 according to Stanford, it is Anatolia/Iran related, it has nothing to do with the Levant:...
  3. Thread: Magna Graecia

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    Hey genius, they already did that in Antonio et...

    Hey genius, they already did that in Antonio et al. 2019!

    I am not going to turn this thread into me having to explain every paper to you.

    You are ignorant of many facts, so you have no right...
  4. Thread: Magna Graecia

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    Natufian within and of itself is mostly...

    Natufian within and of itself is mostly Anatolia_N-like even if you just use Anatolia_N and Morroccan_HG.

    It is a mixed population not a source!
  5. Thread: Magna Graecia

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    How do you even accurately measure it, with all...

    How do you even accurately measure it, with all of the examples of overlap I have stated?
  6. Thread: Magna Graecia

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    Bumping this post, so it isn't drowned out by...

    Bumping this post, so it isn't drowned out by these useless posts.
  7. Thread: Magna Graecia

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    Meaning it isn't necessarily accurate. Do you not...

    Meaning it isn't necessarily accurate. Do you not get that?
  8. Thread: Magna Graecia

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    Who cares? These aren't even legitimate...

    Who cares? These aren't even legitimate components.
  9. Thread: Magna Graecia

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    https://i.imgur.com/cVqlsOd.jpg You can see in...

    https://i.imgur.com/cVqlsOd.jpg

    You can see in the graph, R1 has a noticeably less amount of WHG than the Latini and Etruscans. She is also in the position of modern day Veneto, to the "East".
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  10. Thread: Magna Graecia

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    I don't use G25 R1 should be there though. ...

    I don't use G25

    R1 should be there though.

    It is the Proto-villanovan from the Antonio et al. 2019 study.
  11. Thread: Magna Graecia

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    The Lazaridis Pre-print shows they are 27%...

    The Lazaridis Pre-print shows they are 27% taforalt-like (Morroccan_HG), and the rest is Dzuduana. I don't understand the point you are making, but I think you are the one who is confused.
  12. Thread: Magna Graecia

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    Look, you see to think Anatolia_N and Levant_N is...

    Look, you see to think Anatolia_N and Levant_N is one in the same, you are mistaken.

    You can model yourself however you want. (literally...)
  13. Thread: Magna Graecia

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    Levant_N is not similar to Anatola_N, they have...

    Levant_N is not similar to Anatola_N, they have some overlap, but that where the similarity ends. This is elementary.

    Also, there is no indication that R850 has "direct Natufian" in the study....
  14. Thread: Magna Graecia

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    I am not being a polemic in my views, I am citing...

    I am not being a polemic in my views, I am citing studies that support my arguments. Naturally, people will disagree with other studies, as you do with Olalde et al. 2021. That's your opinion.
  15. Thread: Magna Graecia

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    I wish a study on this colony could be made. But...

    I wish a study on this colony could be made. But also the people who lived there before them.
  16. Thread: Magna Graecia

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    Yeah, facts!

    Yeah, facts!
  17. Thread: Magna Graecia

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    R1 people imo could represent steppe like people...

    R1 people imo could represent steppe like people that went to Italy, and didn't mix with copper age central Italians who had a WHG resurgence, like the ancestors of Etruscans and Latins.
  18. Thread: Magna Graecia

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    This is pure speculation on my part, but I think...

    This is pure speculation on my part, but I think these may represent R1, R437, and R850:

    https://i.imgur.com/JL1lDkc.png
  19. Thread: Magna Graecia

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    This is not my profile, or analysis; I didn't...

    This is not my profile, or analysis; I didn't think of it.

    You should write the authors of Olalde et al. 2021, if you have points you want to make about their analysis. They are usually good at...
  20. Thread: Magna Graecia

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    I am sure there was some Imperial immigrants that...

    I am sure there was some Imperial immigrants that are in my ancestry. In fact, I am sure they are in the ancestry of most people that are from former-Roman dominions. However, what I question is the...
  21. Thread: Magna Graecia

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    Whatever you want to call it, there was a...

    Whatever you want to call it, there was a significant shift represented by the Kuline cluster in the Balkans, during the middle ages; using that model.

    I know some people disapprove this model,...
  22. Thread: Magna Graecia

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    @Francis Drake, let me reiterate, R1 is...

    @Francis Drake, let me reiterate,

    R1 is eastern shifted already, so there were Northern Italian-like people similar to Vento already in the early Iron Age.

    Also, why do we need imperial to...
  23. Thread: Magna Graecia

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    Being Mediterranean is a genetic reality: ...

    Being Mediterranean is a genetic reality:



    These are no phantoms, not in the opera, and not in what I am discussing here. As supported by yet another paper, on the Daunians.

    Just like being...
  24. Thread: Magna Graecia

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    Also, a huge issue with this modeling is that you...

    Also, a huge issue with this modeling is that you are taking samples from different eras, some of which overlap. It is not the way I would have done it.

    Nevertheless,

    Occam's Razor... How do...
  25. Thread: Magna Graecia

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    Albanians are modeled very similar as Tuscans...

    Albanians are modeled very similar as Tuscans here,

    https://i.imgur.com/DtHmqxF.jpg


    Francis Drake,

    do you outright deny that your ancestors were similar to Tuscans/Southern Italians, until...
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