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    north-italians ( venetics ) with Illyrians...

    north-italians ( venetics ) with Illyrians .............if you think histrians are Illyrian then, yes
    Oderzo was the border of Venetics and Histrians and
    Eraclea the border of Liburnians and...
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    did you use this paper in determining anything ?...

    did you use this paper in determining anything ?

    https://macsphere.mcmaster.ca/bitstream/11375/22810/2/PhD_Dissertation_Emery_Final.pdf
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    L283 is found in Dalmatia from Cetina culture...

    L283 is found in Dalmatia from Cetina culture ..........origins of L283 are from the north Caucasus

    it is also found in Etruscan and Rome area after Dalmatia
    ...
  4. you are talking about phase 2 of Halstatt culture...

    you are talking about phase 2 of Halstatt culture circa 800BC
    Phase 1 was circa 1000BC

    I know many want to avoid this phase 1
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    I have seen that they are the same tribe in many...

    I have seen that they are the same tribe in many papers/books ...check for yourself

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iapydes

    the only place we see iapyges as a separate tribe/people is that they...
  6. Thread: Tunisian T-M70

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    chit-chat around the net seem to imply...

    chit-chat around the net seem to imply https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iberomaurusian origin

    but Yfull has also later german dna mixed in .....................the Vandals

    current yfull has 1...
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    so do you keep the tradition of tattooing oneself...

    so do you keep the tradition of tattooing oneself ............like your ancestors the daunians who got it from the celts ...and as other Illyrians did !!!!!
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    since the bulk ( 90% plus ) of Central and south...

    since the bulk ( 90% plus ) of Central and south italy ( not sicily or sardinia ) is either etruscan or Umbrian sub-tribes , then C6 is the best

    From studies ....it is stated the Umbri came into...
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    looks like, not daunian but other 2, yes

    looks like, not daunian but other 2, yes
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    Italian samples for G25

    not from this
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3658181/

    but from this .............maybe some samples mixed

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/067850v1

    ...
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    https://i.postimg.cc/6q6cLd7V/croat-daunian.png...

    https://i.postimg.cc/6q6cLd7V/croat-daunian.png


    Isoptopes only indicate the Daunians are from Croatia
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    the daunians where the biggest group of the 3 ,...

    the daunians where the biggest group of the 3 , with messapic 2nd................i have been saying they mixed with local proto-umbri for a while.................they all spoke the same language ,...
  13. Thread: Tunisian T-M70

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    closest to me in regards to STR are ( not in any...

    closest to me in regards to STR are ( not in any order ) ....................I still need to revisit this

    ITA472 from A'Quila
    ITA188 from Vicenza
    NEL0736 from Netherlands
    SPA619 from Leon
  14. Thread: Tunisian T-M70

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    Tunisian T-M70

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-95144-x#Sec17

    Insights into the Middle Eastern paternal genetic pool in Tunisia: high prevalence of T-M70 haplogroup in an Arab population.
    Sarra...
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    Are you saying the messapics where already in...

    Are you saying the messapics where already in Italy and where original italic people and the Daunians and other came over from the sea and all three united into one unit ?
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    After ftdna latest update ....the BigY for...

    After ftdna latest update ....the BigY for T-Z19945 has 17 branches coming out of it

    with only 18 members shown nationality and 5 unshown

    most is 6 belgiums and next is 3 italians ...
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    If MTA still persist with sample R1 ( a female )...

    If MTA still persist with sample R1 ( a female ) having ydna of O2a2 from east Kazak lands ..............then what is the value of MTA ????
  18. Thread: Globe 13

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    Globe 13

    Has Globe 13 numbers changed and if so where did they come from ?
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    There is no mention of Dalmatians or Dalmatae in...

    There is no mention of Dalmatians or Dalmatae in the bronze-age....but the lands where noted as Liburnian

    Zadar (Iader), Nin ( Aenona), Podgrađe near Benkovac ( Asseria), Ivoševci (Burnum), and...
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    Sticky: Target: VettorK13 Distance: 22.3634% /...

    Target: VettorK13
    Distance: 22.3634% / 22.36338746 | ADC: 0.25x RC





    47.5
    DA342
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    https://i.postimg.cc/nhXsnDPg/isotopic-history-cro...

    https://i.postimg.cc/nhXsnDPg/isotopic-history-croatia.png
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    A paper for Jovailis ...

    A paper for Jovailis

    https://dspace.uevora.pt/rdpc/bitstream/10174/27752/1/Mestrado-Arqueologia_e_Ambiente_Erasmus_Mundus_ARCHMAT-Despina_Miller-Stable_carbon_and_nitrogen_isotope....pdf

    Stable...
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    they are the same people in origin ...

    they are the same people in origin

    https://i.postimg.cc/bJwzJYN7/SE-italy.png

    all scholars, Italians and others state they arrived from the North-Adriatic balkan coast .



    a summary...
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    it states ...

    it states

    https://i.postimg.cc/BQJtvddD/affinity-to-croatia.png


    Do you think the authors do not know about Bosnia, Montenegro and Albania !

    if these daunians had affinity with these ,...
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    because they do not match with the Daunians

    because they do not match with the Daunians
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