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  1. Thread: Philistine DNA!

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    Thanks for posting that. Crete_Armenoi is a low...

    Thanks for posting that. Crete_Armenoi is a low quality sample so it can give unreliable results with Gedmatch.
  2. Thread: Philistine DNA!

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    Crete_Armenoi is different from the Mycenaeans...

    Crete_Armenoi is different from the Mycenaeans and Minoans, in Lazaridis's PCA it plots with northern Greeks from Thessaloniki. In Gedmatch Crete_Armenoi plots a bit away from modern populations,...
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    Only a small part of the samples from Raveane...

    Only a small part of the samples from Raveane 2019 have been uploaded into the G25, because not all Raveane 2019 samples have been released.

    Of course these samples are chosen, prepared and...
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    Try these with your Eurogenes K13, Eurogenes and...

    Try these with your Eurogenes K13, Eurogenes and Dodecad K12b results.

    http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh

    With your K12b results you get Veneto as first. Are you from Veneto, right?

    You are a...
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    Pontic Greeks usually end up more like the...

    Pontic Greeks usually end up more like the Armenians than the Turks.

    I don't find G25 completely accurate, but that's the current situation.

    Where there are so many populations the labels don't...
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    Eurogenes K15 PCA plot with Iron Age samples only...

    Eurogenes K15 PCA plot with Iron Age samples only

    https://i.imgur.com/6NG9Lm5.jpg</span></font><font color=#202020><span style=font-family: arial>

    https://i.imgur.com/FJ1K6hQ.jpg
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    Eurogenes K15 PCA plot ...

    Eurogenes K15 PCA plot

    https://i.imgur.com/a7Sm6ns.jpg


    https://i.imgur.com/jt9HfCu.jpg
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    K15 flaw and probably a bad conversion of the...

    K15 flaw and probably a bad conversion of the ancient samples on Mytrueancestry.com

    In my PCA R60 has a similar position to the paper's PCA

    South Italy towards Greece
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    R60 plotting close to south Italy. K15 is...

    R60 plotting close to south Italy.

    K15 is older than G25. That's probably the reason.


    https://i.imgur.com/z3r9O8Z.jpg
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    Their G25 distances R60 ...

    Their G25 distances

    R60

    https://i.imgur.com/JhmQkwW.png

    R57

    https://i.imgur.com/EpvLSf0.png</font></span></font><font color=#212529><span style=font-family: -apple-system><font...
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    I did a PCA with everyone from Medieval Age and...

    I did a PCA with everyone from Medieval Age and Renaissance Rome.

    https://i.imgur.com/vwdZYjZ.jpg
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    They are a mix of Imperial age samples and Late...

    They are a mix of Imperial age samples and Late Antiquity samples.

    In G25 PCA Rome_Imperial:RMPR37 plots with the Basques. Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR118 plots between Lazio and Umbria.

    The rest...
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    The PCA with all individual results of...

    The PCA with all individual results of ITA_Rome_Imperial. In the second PCA the cluster of ITA_Rome_Imperial.

    individual results

    https://i.imgur.com/tVFftSE.jpg


    cluster
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    I didn't know that. Davidski's always changing...

    I didn't know that. Davidski's always changing his averages, who knows why.

    He didn't update them, he just changed the labels, those three samples from Thessaly had already been uploaded into the...
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    In the PCA Proto-Villanovan plots in...

    In the PCA Proto-Villanovan plots in Italian_Piedmont's cluster, a little bit to the east.

    https://i.imgur.com/strZPJQ.jpg

    Distances. Distances are never exactly the same as the PCA because the...
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    Where does Greek Thessaly's value come from? The...

    Where does Greek Thessaly's value come from? The Greeks in the G25 are certainly mostly from Northern Greece but there is no Greek Thessaly label anywhere in G25.
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    It's the average of two Levant_Natufian samples,...

    It's the average of two Levant_Natufian samples, Levant_Natufian:I0861 and Levant_Natufian:I1072. It might be not completely accurate.

    MAR_Iberomaurusian is instead the average of five ancient...
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    HRV_IA:I3313 might be Croatia IA, and...

    HRV_IA:I3313 might be Croatia IA, and BGR_IA:I5769 might be Bulgaria Iron Age.

    https://i.imgur.com/DQqUITw.png




    Most likely Liguria, even if CL36 plots in the Piedmont cluster that is...
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    Agreed. The ancient Greeks had colonies in...

    Agreed. The ancient Greeks had colonies in Anatolia and will have mixed very much with the local Anatolia_BA-like population. Probably the ancient Greeks are among the main sources of CHG/Iran_N in...
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    Bulgaria_IA? Croatia_IA? Maybe nMonte/G25...

    Bulgaria_IA? Croatia_IA?



    Maybe nMonte/G25 inflates WHG, I don't know. However yes, the higher WHG is the reason why the Latins and some Etruscans go in the direction of Iberia/South France.
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    A plausible model could be this. nMonte with G25...

    A plausible model could be this. nMonte with G25 is not very precise although and if inappropriate models are used the results can be very misleading.


    All the samples from Rome and the...
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    The averages of Rome_Imperial,...

    The averages of Rome_Imperial, Rome_Late_Antiquity, Rome_MA, Rome_Renaissance, and Tivoli_Renaissance, in the PCA with modern populations.

    I'm using the G25 because it's the only one available.
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    I don't want to be offensive, but it's a very...

    I don't want to be offensive, but it's a very amateurish work that confuses and doesn't clarify. It is impossible to see all these indications in Etruscan and Latin samples, using Global 25 or any...
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    Sure, no problem. On the basis of the three Parma...

    Sure, no problem. On the basis of the three Parma Bell Beaker samples it is not clear if there were different routes.

    Bell_Beaker_ITA:I1979 is very close to ITA_Etruscan:RMPR474b. This sample has...
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    Likely. There's nothing weird about it. They're...

    Likely. There's nothing weird about it. They're different tools. Rarely what you see in the papers is exactly identical to what is seen with these amateur tools.
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