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The negative statement suggesting at the end that Athens would have continued into the Classical Age even if Persians had won is extremely illogical and should be dismissed by any logical students of...

What test did you do?

What you wrote is not correct historically. The ancient writers who first described the Macedonians ALL described them as Greeks. If they weren't they would have described them as other than Greeks....

Are you talking about North Macedonians? Actual Macedonians are Greek, right?

If they were Macedonian, they were Greek! This has been proven time and again.

No answers. Well I'll also submit that if you detract the Slav impact in Greece and the Phoenician impact in Cyprus, the two populations become almost the same.

That is completely not correct. The Paeonian area was never named Macedonia under Philip. The Illyrians remained in control in Lychnidos and Paeonians remained where they were. Paeonia did not become...

You are all forgetting that the North was only Macedonia when the Romans had the area...it was a large geographic area that the Romans called Macedonia...it had nothing to do with the Real Macedonia...

Most of the so-called history posted in this thread from the beginning is false. The actual ancient Macedonians mixed with the other Greeks during Hellenistic times. So no "Macedonians" separate from...

The Helots in the Peloponnese were probably the original population with the minimal R1a proto-Greeks lording it over them which would possibly explain how the older language disappeared over time...

Priority should be Greece. Athens and Santorini are a MUST. In Italy, the Amalfi coast comes a close second.

How can this possibly be true when these are shown before Slavic presence in the Mediterranean areas?:

"Some deep clades of E-V13, G2a, J2b2a and R1b-Z2103 may also be of Slavic origin"

Voskarides:

https://investigativegenetics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13323-016-0032-8

Mr Voskarides has a table #2 there that states 66% Anatolian dna and 24% Levantine dna and only...

That was 0-25 people per thousand of the then current population of the Peloponnese.

Population transfer of refugees from Turkey, as a result of losing the Greek-Turkish war (1919-1922), was estimated for most of the Peloponnese at from 0 - 25 people per thousand of indigenous...

During the fight with the Antigonids the army of Ptolemy ruthlessly destroyed the three Phoenician cities and enslaved their populations.

It appears that there were three main Phoenician settlements in Cyprus in the 5th century BC, Kition (modern Larnica), Lapithos and Kyrenia.

My own calculations, based on Voskarides charts and information, show roughly 50% Anatolian, 20% Levant (mainly Phoenician), and 30% Greek (not 13%).

I mean, the text of the article is illogical. Since little or NO connection between Yamnaya and Maykop then it would appear logically Anatolian/Caucasus would NOT be PIE homeland.

Macedonian is an integral part of Greek consciousness and nationality. It joins ancient Greece through Hellenistic Greece, Byzantine Greece and to the Renaissance in the West to Byron and Modern...

That's so unreasonable!

To make such an important statement as that, Voskarides should have specifically clarified which haplogroups he was interpreting as non-Greek. if I've missed something could someone point out what I...

This question is important because even Heraclides repeats those numbers in his work in 2017.

Mr Voskarides has a table #2 there that states 66% Anatolian dna and 24% Levantine dna and only 13% Greek dn. I cannot see how he comes up with those percents from the numbers he shows anywhere in...

Y-chromosome phylogeographic analysis of the Greek-Cypriot population reveals elements consistent with Neolithic and Bronze Age settlements by Konstantinos Voskarides.