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  1. They sound complete weird to me but the 1rst...

    They sound complete weird to me but the 1rst albanian sounds a bit like polish. And sometimes italian like.

    The tosk sounds more closer to some latin type language, at least based on how the...
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    It wouldn't be ssa or chinese because JL283 is...

    It wouldn't be ssa or chinese because JL283 is caucus origin from Georgia armenia region. We already know this. But we have levantine origin of a spefic basal J-L283 branch and kura axes culture is a...
  3. 2 theories about etruscan origins are, they...

    2 theories about etruscan origins are, they migrated after Croesus conquered the west asian greeks. The other is they come from one of the greek islands. I think it was called lemnos. This was...
  4. Men probably are too. Truth is both are probably...

    Men probably are too. Truth is both are probably happier alone because changes to our lifestyle. And what we can do is more limited.
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    Maybe in brazil. They did this with french...

    Maybe in brazil. They did this with french surnames sometimes. To make them sound more spanish. But with people like lebanese names I would imagine they are more likey to change the surname. They...
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    My closest STR is someone from spain from 5400...

    My closest STR is someone from spain from 5400 ybp. Sure .... when I am Jz627 minus every other single mutation after jz600. And z586

    The Lebanese J-L283 likely has less snp differences than the...
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    Spaniards were already a mixes bag of celts goths...

    Spaniards were already a mixes bag of celts goths french romans and southern spain had few phonecians and berbers. My ydna clade is highly atypical so my line doesn't come from spaniards of other...
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    If its spain its carthagenian/ phonecians. Thats...

    If its spain its carthagenian/ phonecians. Thats for sure.

    Italian is a low chance. The only way it could be italian is if it were actually sardinian. Which could make sense since spain colonized...
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    I know my paternal line earlier than that bro. I...

    I know my paternal line earlier than that bro. I know all my ancestors on my dominican side at that time. Every dominican line to 1880s.
    None were italian. And the only one that matters for Ydna...
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    Wheres the ancient samples of -J-Z2507 in albania...

    Wheres the ancient samples of -J-Z2507 in albania than? Where are they? Georgia. Not albania.

    There is none. Kura axes culture was steppe anyways. And it reached reached to anatolia and northern...
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    It is, but colonization happened at 1492- 1800 AD...

    It is, but colonization happened at 1492- 1800 AD

    Not 2000BC - 146 BC.
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    Mtdna and autosomal dna does not matter at all....

    Mtdna and autosomal dna does not matter at all. KNOW YYY?

    i am 627, I do not have a west eurasian mtdna, so does that mean my Ydna came from east asia? Obviously Not. Men do not pass down mtdna,...
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    Blabbing about spaniards in the carribean wouldnt...

    Blabbing about spaniards in the carribean wouldnt matter. My z627 clade came from lebanese during phonecian era into southern spain. Made a pit stop at sardinia with J -yp29 left clades from kura...
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    Pfff. Lebanese JY14600 is negligle because it...

    Pfff. Lebanese JY14600 is negligle because it has low relatives in albania. Than that means albanians arent very closely related. Just that one sample vs multiple lebanese samples.

    Their most...
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    JY14600 most recent common ancestor to basal z597...

    JY14600 most recent common ancestor to basal z597 is 1000BC. It says so on the TMRCA. Thats what it stands for.

    While J-Z2507 is 2400BC. I don't know what to tell if you cannot comprehend this. It...
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    It doesnt have a common ancestor UNTIL 2400 BC....

    It doesnt have a common ancestor UNTIL 2400 BC. (Late kura axes culture)

    That is for J-Z2507
    JY14600 is 1000BC ( 1000 years + past kura axes culture)

    Jy14600 has common ancestor between 2400BC...
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    I dont have ancestor with z597, tell me where I...

    I dont have ancestor with z597, tell me where I said that i do?
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    Look. Kuraxes culture -> late kuraxes culture....

    Look. Kuraxes culture -> late kuraxes culture.
    See...
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    J-Z597 doesn't have a common ancestor with z597...

    J-Z597 doesn't have a common ancestor with z597 until 2400 BC so it doesnt matter when it formed [emoji2357][emoji2369]

    While JY14600 has one at 1000BC...
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    Its not when they form thats important. Its the...

    Its not when they form thats important. Its the most recent common ancestor !!! [emoji2357]
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    Yes I am. So I dont decend from J-Z2507+ tun tun....

    Yes I am. So I dont decend from J-Z2507+ tun tun. So my lineage was not part of J-Z2507+ it stemmed from georgia at that level!!! Before J-Z2507+ even existed!! At 3400BC!!! Tun tun tun. Actually...
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    Its a basal offshoot... You only show albanian...

    Its a basal offshoot...

    You only show albanian formed around the same time period other J-Z2507 subclades diverged from basal Z597 on TMRCA. 2400BC. Let me spell it out. TIME OF MOST RECENT...
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    1 argueing you found J-Z2507 only 800 years...

    1 argueing you found
    J-Z2507 only 800 years after Jz597 is a weird arguemnt when the TmRca is 4400ybp.



    Obviously since JL283 came from georgia. That doesnt necessarily equate to z597 being...
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    J2-Z2507 formed 2400bc. So? So they are illryian...

    J2-Z2507 formed 2400bc. So? So they are illryian brother clades because they formed before illryians exists? This is my point. They are mnt brother clades. The distribution is very clear. Especially...
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    Its not Z2507 doesnt share all the deeper...

    Its not Z2507 doesnt share all the deeper mutations the illryian albanian clades do. So wtf are you talking about? It split 2400bc.

    Its like trying to argue JYp29 and haplogroup i2i2 are close...
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