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    1) All human societies experience conflict....

    1) All human societies experience conflict. Because Europeans experienced conflict that means Europe wasn't successful? LOL. That's preposterous. European contributions speak for themselves & they...
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    1) Remind you of the race which was murdering...

    1) Remind you of the race which was murdering everyone but themselves throughout history? Ok, the human race. LOL. That's what people do. They kill, they engage in conquest, they seek territory and...
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    1) I saw a gay man thrown from a roof last month....

    1) I saw a gay man thrown from a roof last month. This week I saw a man get put in a cage which was then submerged in water, drowning him, merely because he was a christian. I saw a black Muslim...
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    1) What do you think America is an example of...?...

    1) What do you think America is an example of...? Let me guess, a shining city on a hill? LOL. This I'm really anxious to hear! LOL. This is going to be rich. Tell me, what is America an example...
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    "Way of life is not a race". To some degree it...

    "Way of life is not a race". To some degree it is. Race is strongly correlated with way of life & various social & cultural phenomena. This has a lot to do with "identity" & the biases them stem...
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    Define racism. There are 100 definitions and they...

    Define racism. There are 100 definitions and they all entail different things. Some of the predominant definitions:
    a) Functionally equivalent to out-group prejudice. Basically it is an extension...
  7. Thread: liguri v13

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    1) Woah! You should probably consult your uncle...

    1) Woah! You should probably consult your uncle about how easy that was to do. My expectation is it was not very easy, though again, with the right resources it's probably sometimes doable.
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    I can't debate the finer points of the analysis...

    I can't debate the finer points of the analysis because I don't know what "quality standards" were used.
    I don't even want to concede that Italian record keeping was fantastic at the time because...
  9. Thread: liguri v13

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    -My point was more a general criticism of setting...

    -My point was more a general criticism of setting up barriers to sample admission. I'm not sure how great record keeping was in Venice in say the mid-1800s. I'm not sure how expensive it is for...
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    There is an argument to be made that the stricter...

    There is an argument to be made that the stricter are the standards the less representative of Venice will be the results. Venice, for a long time, has been riddled with tradesmen, fishermen,...
  11. Thread: liguri v13

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    1) Northern Italy is vast so the North Italy...

    1) Northern Italy is vast so the North Italy Project is not all that dispositive here. Venice is but one city. LOL. Yes, E is like 11-12% in Northern Italy on the whole, and about 9% E-V13.
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    That you would even admit this is hilarious....

    That you would even admit this is hilarious. Whatever they told you on Stormfront, they're right.
  13. No idea where this data is from. Sicily does not...

    No idea where this data is from. Sicily does not have a high % of E-V13. It has a high percentage of E1b1b, but only about 30-40% of it is E-V13. Thus the rub with your argument. This is a thread...
  14. Your point is very well taken. It also speaks to...

    Your point is very well taken. It also speaks to a larger problem with a lot of these studies & the reported haplo numbers on Eupedia. Often researchers will seek a diverse profile of a nation or...
  15. J2 is slightly more common in Italy on the whole...

    J2 is slightly more common in Italy on the whole than E1b1b. J2 accounts for about 15-16% of all Italians, whereas E1b1b accounts for roughly 13-14%. However, regional numbers vary. There is...
  16. J2 & E-V13 don't have similar distributions, J2b...

    J2 & E-V13 don't have similar distributions, J2b & E-V13 do. I think they may have even made the journey to Greece or southern Italy together, directly from northern Africa.
  17. There is a big difference between data and...

    There is a big difference between data and estimates. These skeletons are data. TMRCA numbers are estimates, not data. They involve assumptions about mutation rates, & various other assumptions....
  18. Thread: Haplogroup E

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    E itself likely originated in the Horn of Africa...

    E itself likely originated in the Horn of Africa or a nearby part of the Arabian peninsula or the Maghreb 60,000 years or so ago, before races even existed. Today E1b1b is massively caucasian (not...
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    Japan is O & D, not sure I'd include "N" in USSR,...

    Japan is O & D, not sure I'd include "N" in USSR, and not so sure about I1 for US. I1 is likely under 10% in US.
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    All haplogroups at their base originate in Africa...

    All haplogroups at their base originate in Africa because mankind originated in Africa. Haplo DE likely left Africa with CF 50-60,000 years ago.
    According to what other data and what other research?...
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    "Some people deep in the mountains of Tibet"? "A...

    "Some people deep in the mountains of Tibet"? "A percentage of Ainu"! LOL. The Japanese are 40% y-haplogroup D. 40%. Not just Ainu. All Japanese people. Also, Ainu are like 70-80% haplo D. But the...
  22. I think you've answered your own question. There...

    I think you've answered your own question. There are non-Jews who are E-M123 (plenty of them, especially in the Levant), so it's not "necessarily Jewish". However, Poland did historically have a...
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    1) It's actually pretty persuasive in the context...

    1) It's actually pretty persuasive in the context of strong indirect & circumstantial evidence. We have Cardium E-V13 in Spain, likely E-V13 in Sopot & Lengyel, not far from Northern Italy, & Cardium...
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    Yes, actually. Reinhardt Klopfer from Bietigheim,...

    Yes, actually. Reinhardt Klopfer from Bietigheim, Baden-Wurttemberg, southern Germany is close (ish). That's probably the closest one. It's pretty close, but I've seen closer.
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    1) E-V13 is very high in Kosovar Albanians. Why...

    1) E-V13 is very high in Kosovar Albanians. Why is this so? Who knows? It doesn't mean that E-V13 however originated in the Albanian people or should in some way be equated with Albanians. By no...
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