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    I didn't remove especially Vlachs and Arvanites,...

    I didn't remove especially Vlachs and Arvanites, I also removed Gypsies. The point was to give the numbers for those who self identified as Greek (in any case the number of Vlachs and Arvanites was...
  2. I2 in the Balkans comes almost completely from...

    I2 in the Balkans comes almost completely from Slavic tribes settling there from the 6th century on.
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    Interesting is that the Saudi belongs to the same...

    Interesting is that the Saudi belongs to the same branch as the Albanians (and the Sardinian sample), so very likely their history is connected to that of V13. In the other branch we only have a...
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    I'm not sure why the V13 is so shocking, the...

    I'm not sure why the V13 is so shocking, the Goths spent a lot of time in the Balkans, first in Dacia, later also in the Western Balkans. Evidently they assimilated portions of the local population...
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    Nevermind this.

    Nevermind this.
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    Well deeper down there is a good case for the...

    Well deeper down there is a good case for the DE-split happening in Asia, and E actually migrating back to Africa, as D is only found in Asia. But that discussion is about a split that happened over...
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    This seems rather odd. V13 was first discovered...

    This seems rather odd. V13 was first discovered in 2006, and corresponded to an STR-pattern first identified in 2004. This is the paper where V13 was first identified:...
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    Eastara, I don't immediatly find a BY400 marker,...

    Eastara, I don't immediatly find a BY400 marker, can you check which group they are exactly?
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    Sadly, no NGS. But I have to correct myself as...

    Sadly, no NGS. But I have to correct myself as the study will in fact have data from Greece, Sicily and Southern Italy also. After this study was published:...
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    Thanks drroots. If you read the document linked...

    Thanks drroots. If you read the document linked in my previous post you will see I assume the Spanish V13 belonged to a sidebranch of V13 upstream of CTS5856 (or rather Z1057), which in all...
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    I see I'm quoted a few times in this thread. I'm...

    I see I'm quoted a few times in this thread. I'm happy there's such a big interest in V13! I would say at this point that the origins of V13 and CTS5856 are very likely in Southern Balkans, but...
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    Tomorrow we'll be launching a new V13-SNP pack at...

    Tomorrow we'll be launching a new V13-SNP pack at FTDNA. I updated and extended my previous text on CTS5856 for the occasion. The result is longer and can be read here:
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  13. The cardial V13 doesn't fit well in our current...

    The cardial V13 doesn't fit well in our current understanding of this group. But the facts are the facts: this sample was tested for the V13 SNP and was positive, so the STR-values are of no...
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    Interesting view. I can add that the last months...

    Interesting view. I can add that the last months have given a lot of new information about V13, without necessarily clarifying the picture. We discovered that a number of tribes in Northern Albania...
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    I don't think he is commenting on DNA issues. His...

    I don't think he is commenting on DNA issues. His theory was that at least the central european BB had a Yamnaya origin. The older dates found for Iberian BB put that in question, since they suggest...
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    Nothing lower than Z590 was tested, unfortunately.

    Nothing lower than Z590 was tested, unfortunately.
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    I previously posted about V13/CTS5856...

    I previously posted about V13/CTS5856. Since then I've used the Genographic project samples to look deeper in the distribution of V13/CTS5856. The analysis of that group is too specific for this...
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    Nothing lower than Z467 was tested.

    Nothing lower than Z467 was tested.
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    Yes, CTS9219, my mistake. Nothing lower than this...

    Yes, CTS9219, my mistake. Nothing lower than this was tested. I can add that 2 samples were PF7580+, which might serve as a proxy for L584 as it is not a lot lower, compared to 15 CTS7822+.
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    It's mainly because of the distribution of...

    It's mainly because of the distribution of J2-M172 (maybe they are not related at all). I have no idea why it's high in Arcadia.
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    About 10% of the detailed J2a group was Z467+. 2...

    About 10% of the detailed J2a group was Z467+. 2 samples from Cyprus, 1 from Asia minor and1 from Lesbos,no mainland, but this is a very small group offcourse.
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    As I see they are very diverse with no clear...

    As I see they are very diverse with no clear preference for certain subclades.
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    In the more detailed samples there were 69 J2, 53...

    In the more detailed samples there were 69 J2, 53 (77%) are J2a. Under J2b there is one J2b* from Asia minor, 2 Z1825/Z575+, L283/Z588-, 11 L283/Z588+ (mostly from Arcadia and Thessaly) and 2...
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    I think genetics probably supports most theories....

    I think genetics probably supports most theories. What I mean by that: if you would be of the opinion that Greek has an Anatolian origin and was brought along by the first farmers (a popular theory...
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    I checked the breakdown of P37 in the detailed...

    I checked the breakdown of P37 in the detailed samples, there are only 2 P37xL621 (presumably neolithic), and they are both from the Ionian Islands (compared to 27 F3145's). There are also multiple...
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