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    I think it is only from a roman term for an area...

    I think it is only from a roman term for an area of land which they called Illyricum..............similar to today iberia represent spanish and portuguese....or British, an area of britain which has...
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    But we do have a census by Romans on the number...

    But we do have a census by Romans on the number of "illyrians" in the year 4AD, that is males of fighting age

    It shows that Dalmatians where the main tribe , followed by Pannonians...........I...
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    you might find more in this link...

    you might find more in this link
    https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/ancient-human-dna_41837#6/48.872/15.029
    click dot on map and read original papers on what you selected
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    they also have your matches by clicking the icon...

    they also have your matches by clicking the icon on the map...............I do not know which they select, I presume people who have an account and are at least 3rd cousins or closer
    ...
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    my new one from data on post #601 this looks...

    my new one from data on post #601

    this looks better and better



    Distance to:
    Torziok12b
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    New Ftdna origins

    Here are my results from Ftdna new origins ancestral breakup

    for Anatolia......they persist with a Azeri line , even though it is not shown on map.............I do not know
    ...
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    thanks I asked , because I only go to one site...

    thanks

    I asked , because I only go to one site which gives me the markers and the official papers ..................but it updates only 6 times a year
    ...
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    You need to cease your snide remarks.... as i...

    You need to cease your snide remarks.... as i said, i looked at this sizzi site you mentioned and there is no dodecad stuff on it, so you made another false claim....so what maciano placed on site...
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    Why do you follow Sizzi .............I cannot...

    Why do you follow Sizzi .............I cannot even read or understand what he writes ,only lately I knew about him, how long have you followed him? ............I only follow the spaniard,...
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    R850 and Ardea, the Rutuli people Some say he...

    R850 and Ardea, the Rutuli people

    Some say he was cretan others cypriot ..............latest a Duanian from Foggia or from Greek Argos .....................no ones knows

    from site...
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    Oldest samples that match myself 32. Proto...

    Oldest samples that match myself

    32. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 14.31 - I3499 -
    Top 98% match vs all users
    I3499
    mtDNA: T2e
    Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2a2
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    The new ............Deep Dive Breakdown for me is...

    The new ............Deep Dive Breakdown for me is

    Genetic Closeness = Gallo-Roman

    Total SNP = Gallo-Roman

    Longest SNP = Illyrian


    .............................................
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    SZ18 is SZ18: mtDNA: H13a1a2 Y-DNA:...

    SZ18 is
    SZ18:
    mtDNA: H13a1a2
    Y-DNA: E1b1b1a1b2(CTS2817)

    Do they really mark this sample as Ladini from the alps ?



    and I would like to see what scy197b is
  14. https://yourdnaportal.com/yourgeneticancestry ...

    https://yourdnaportal.com/yourgeneticancestry

    they do not have K12b ............they do have everything else
  15. Nobody used Dodecad k12b from what I see on the...

    Nobody used Dodecad k12b from what I see on the net, most used is europgenes K13

    Athrogenica only use G25 data from what I can see

    So, unless someone shows me something else...then the dodecad...
  16. can you link me to his K12 data...

    can you link me to his K12 data .................as far as I can see he only has K13 and K15
    Which means the K12 we have been using has always been dodecad


    Only found this...
  17. and for north italy Distance to:...

    and for north italy



    Distance to:
    R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia


    9.24585840
    Italy_Lombardy
  18. using only these ...

    using only these

    Italy_Tuscany,6.12,0.049,1.21,0.139,36.889,21.811,0.157,0.055,8.206,0,25.364,0
    Italy_Lazio,6.725,0,2.67,0.0525,31.7,19.8175,0.2575,0.07,9.785,0.1725,28.747,0...
  19. I agree the term gallic-ligurian is a bit young ...

    I agree the term gallic-ligurian is a bit young

    it should be etruscan and or greek for Corsica at that time ..............unsure when the etruscans kicked the greeks out of corsica and took over...
  20. The area is now under the ...

    The area is now under the
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkars

    same place as my marker of T1a2 branch is said to have formed................this was discussed before ............it is a...
  21. if I leave in the Sardinians, Spanish, french and...

    if I leave in the Sardinians, Spanish, french and Albanians ....the results for R1015 are



    Distance to:
    R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia


    9.24585840
    Italy_Lombardy
  22. to test yout theory here is R1 with original...

    to test yout theory

    here is R1 with original dodecad



    Distance to:
    R1____Iron_Age_____Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
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    a confusing T marker I am zero distance in ...

    a confusing T marker

    I am zero distance in ftdna with

    Christian Atherholt (1724 - 1812)
  24. As long as you do not think every Villanovan is...

    As long as you do not think every Villanovan is not etruscan .................I will check on R1015





    Distance to:
    R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
  25. on a lap top now a sizzi thread attachment in...

    on a lap top now
    a sizzi thread attachment in italian ..............I got a english version

    Do you think all Villanovan sample are only etruscans ?
    even when they held Rome for over 200 years...
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