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    Thanks for the blue/red descriptions. How exactly...

    Thanks for the blue/red descriptions. How exactly does purple fit in?

    Gaul + Frank (4.826)
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    I’m not familiar with the technology 23andMe...

    I’m not familiar with the technology 23andMe uses. However, with Ftdna I know that the same base pair location gets many reads and occasionally a negative read will pop up such as 49 T (Thymine) and...
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    How do you know you’re negative for L64? How many...

    How do you know you’re negative for L64? How many reads did you have for that specific base pair location? What kind of testing did you have done? What does Ftdna have you labeled as? If you truly...
  4. Thread: I1-Bottleneck

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    I1 was formed around 27,500 years ago when it...

    I1 was formed around 27,500 years ago when it split apart from I2 yet the most recent common ancestor for all modern I1 individuals is around 4,600 years ago. Between 27,500 and 4,600 intermediate...
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    I agree! If a sample has ancestral alleles for...

    I agree! If a sample has ancestral alleles for any of the 311 SNPs then it can’t be considered fully I1. 20 ancestral values seems to me to be pretty conclusive for not being I1 as we know it today....
  6. I am downstream of Z382 myself which most likely...

    I am downstream of Z382 myself which most likely originated in Sweden. My story is kind of the opposite of yours. Looks like my paternal ancestors went from Sweden to the British Isles and then to...
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    Hi! Your Italian I1 is probably due to either...

    Hi! Your Italian I1 is probably due to either Langobard or Norman migration. However, it could be from the Goths or Vandals as well. If you are serious about learning more I recommend upgrading to...
  8. Thread: Sampling Bias

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    My understanding is that the Hungary sample from...

    My understanding is that the Hungary sample from the Neolithic tested positive for I-M253. However, I’m not sure how many of the other 308 SNPs associated with I1 it was tested for and whether or not...
  9. Thread: Sampling Bias

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    All of the I1 ancient dna samples should be...

    All of the I1 ancient dna samples should be retested for deeper subclades to determine if they are extinct or extant branches on the I1 Haplotree. At the very least they should be retested for I-DF29...
  10. Thread: Sampling Bias

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    Sampling Bias

    Sweden: 1291/2850=45%, 10m
    Norway: 579/1537=38%, 5m
    Denmark: 202/555=36%, 6m
    Iceland: 42/132=32%, 0.3m
    Finland: 664/2421=27%, 6m
    Netherlands: 229/983=23%, 17m
    England: 2176/10996=20%, 55m
    UK:...
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    This is an excellent point regarding the I-M253...

    This is an excellent point regarding the I-M253 Hungary sample. For me I1 is I-M253 + 308 other SNPs so if ancient dna is only tested for one of those 309 SNPs it’s a stretch to label it as I1. This...
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    Hopefully they will test deeper subclades than...

    Hopefully they will test deeper subclades than just I-M253 or R-U106. It would be nice to start correlating subclades from 3,000-1,000 ybp with actual ancient dna samples.
  13. Here are percentages for I-M253 based on the...

    Here are percentages for I-M253 based on the Ftdna Haplotree. I might add more countries later. Minimum of at least 25 kits positive for I-M253.

    Sweden: 1,291/2,850= 45%
    Norway: 579/1,537= 38%...
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    I just received part of my Big Y-500 results...

    I just received part of my Big Y-500 results namely the STR matches. Based on my STR results and some other information I learned from the administrator of the Z382 project my migration story has...
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    Thanks for the reply! A lot of interesting...

    Thanks for the reply! A lot of interesting details. It might explain why no ancient I1 dna has been found in Scandinavia prior to the Nordic Bronze Age.

    However, the TMRCAs of some of the earlier...
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    I1 Migration Story

    I1 more than likely has a Scandinavian origin and most of the early subclades probably do as well. The purpose of this thread is to give your opinion as to when, how, and with which subclade your...
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    I suspect my current subclade of I-S10350 (not...

    I suspect my current subclade of I-S10350 (not currently listed on YFULL) downstream of I-FGC24357 might be Frankish as well considering my paternal ancestors are from Wallonia Belgium.

    We both...
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    The way I look at it is that each snp refers to a...

    The way I look at it is that each snp refers to a particular man in time that has descendants today and that each haplogroup refers to a specific paternal lineage. So at a certain point there was no...
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    I think they split at the same time when that one...

    I think they split at the same time when that one mutation occurred that the other line doesn’t have. Then over many thousands of years other defining mutations occurred separating them even more....
  20. Thread: I s26361

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    It’s my presumption that all of those snps...

    It’s my presumption that all of those snps originated in Scandinavia and probably Sweden since there are people still in Sweden with those SNPs today and a backwards migration is not that likely in...
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    The transition addition worked for my accounts...

    The transition addition worked for my accounts too. I am pleased with the results especially since they added Northwestern to the labeling.

    Wallonia Belgian Father:
    E,W, and NW: 59%
    Germanic:...
  22. Thread: I s26361

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    People who are positive for FGC24357 such as...

    People who are positive for FGC24357 such as myself are also positive for FGC24354 which has a TMRCA of 2700 years almost certainly in Scandinavia. It’s age makes it difficult to track any specific...
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    No official release date has been released and I...

    No official release date has been released and I have not heard of any accounts being updated recently so no one knows when if ever it might be rolled out to all. Even Ancestry customer service reps...
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    Stonehenge has a lot of similarities to Gobekli...

    Stonehenge has a lot of similarities to Gobekli Tepe in Turkey. I wouldn’t be surprised if these Neolithic builders in Britain had some sort of cultural influence from their ancestors many millennia...
  25. Thanks! I was considering doing Big Y 500;...

    Thanks! I was considering doing Big Y 500; however, considering the lack of Wallonia samples at FTDNA I get the feeling I won’t learn very much about possible recent subclades anytime soon. My theory...
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