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  1. It's funny because Sicily faced major changes in...

    It's funny because Sicily faced major changes in it's regions even thousands years ago, the Carthaginian colonies were mostly wiped, if ones takes Roman historians literally, and even nowdays...
  2. I haven't seen a similar scenario. But I have...

    I haven't seen a similar scenario. But I have seen many banned members there.
    I know someone who did a quick little joke, got immediately banned.
  3. Old Greeks are similar to Sicilians but not in...

    Old Greeks are similar to Sicilians but not in the same level as the old Dalmatians are with the Bergamo. They are clearly shifted towards Minoans. So they can be modeled as mostly Sicilian + lot of...
  4. I have only seen some few Afro-centrists there,...

    I have only seen some few Afro-centrists there, and most of the members were opposing them.
    The site is a little bit Jewish-centric so the idea of Black Israelites and Middle-Easterns is definitely...
  5. 40% of Roman samples were Southern Italian-like...

    40% of Roman samples were Southern Italian-like not Myceanean-like. I still hold the belief that some Italic tribes (those in Southern Mainland) were already similar before the colonization of Magna...
  6. It really depends on the nature of the...

    It really depends on the nature of the discussion. If it triggers a heated argument you get punished not that I like it though.
    Afrocentrism is tolerated because people are entitled to their wrong...
  7. A quite famous member in Eupedia, TheApricity and...

    A quite famous member in Eupedia, TheApricity and Anthrogenica. Apperantly he had an anti-Italian and specifically an anti-Sicilian sentiment in the past, but his older posts are deleted now so I...
  8. I was banned for having a second account, I had...

    I was banned for having a second account, I had no intention on trolling there, I just wanted a new username.
    If Sikeliot had a sock account, he would've get caught, or he already did get caught...
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    Syracuse -> Corinth Casmenai -> Syracuse ->...

    Syracuse -> Corinth
    Casmenai -> Syracuse -> Corinth
    Kamarina -> Syracuse -> Corinth
    Megara Hyblaea -> Megara
    Selinunte -> Megara Hyblaea -> Megara
    Heraclea Minoa -> ?
    Gela -> Rhodes and Crete...
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    Maybe it also has to do with the dimensions that...

    Maybe it also has to do with the dimensions that they pick to represent the populations in the PCA. Look at Armenians in this PCA and look at the Lazaridis they are way more shifted away from...
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    That's how I see it too.

    That's how I see it too.
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    It would be great to know how the southern ones...

    It would be great to know how the southern ones plot.
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    Actually it does say nearly complete replacement....

    Actually it does say nearly complete replacement.
    [...] our analysis documents the impact of the Phoenician and Greek colonial periods as well as subsequent immigration on the islands of the western...
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    The Doric steppe/germanic thing in southern...

    The Doric steppe/germanic thing in southern Greece is not going to happen, let it go.
    You cannot expect an ancient Lakonian to plot north or even close to a Northern Thracian. And speaking of...
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    I admit that in my head I remembered the study...

    I admit that in my head I remembered the study impying a nearly complete replacement, but that was a mistake as I rechecked the study.
    But in my defense if one believes modern Sicilians to have the...
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    It does not bother me at all. It's just that if...

    It does not bother me at all. It's just that if Cretans have a substantial Minoan ancestry then it's very likely that Sicilians have a substanial pre-900BC Sicilian ancestry given the ratio shown in...
  17. Most of E-V13 in Cyprus (close but below 10%) is...

    Most of E-V13 in Cyprus (close but below 10%) is probably Greek in origin, but I believe there was an other migration of Greeks in Cyprus during the Middle Ages. I believe most of the ancestors of...
  18. That haplogroup is like 1% in Italians and...

    That haplogroup is like 1% in Italians and Albanians, it is unlikely it is ultimately Semitic, even if it was it's like 1%, let it go.
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    Absolutely. It's just that if old Greeks were...

    Absolutely. It's just that if old Greeks were like the vast majority of the population in Sicily I doubt Plato would be worried about the Greek language going extinct.
    Wars in Sicily were ruthless...
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    Plato on Sicily: [...

    Plato on Sicily:
    [353ε] τούτου κινδυνεύσει καὶ τὸ τυραννικὸν ἅπαν καὶ τὸ δημοτικὸν γένος, ἥξει δέ, ἐάνπερ τῶν εἰκότων γίγνηταί τι καὶ ἀπευκτῶν, σχεδὸν εἰς ἐρημίαν τῆς Ἑλληνικῆς φωνῆς Σικελία πᾶσα,...
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    Oh I'm sorry.

    Oh I'm sorry.
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    I think Sicilians might have been more similar to...

    I think Sicilians might have been more similar to the old Greeks, by the time passed and before the colonization started. So I believe that native Sicilians might been Minoan-like by 900BC.
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    The MBA/LBA ones seem to be closer to modern...

    The MBA/LBA ones seem to be closer to modern Sicilians than Minoans are.
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    IMO means in my opinion.

    IMO means in my opinion.
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    All of the Ionic colonies in Sicily are from...

    All of the Ionic colonies in Sicily are from Euboea, and the Doric ones are from Corinth, Megara, Rhodes and Crete. The biggest demographic change came with Magna Greacians, as Syracuse was one of...
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