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  1. Well, the problem is the mixing and matching,...

    Well, the problem is the mixing and matching, Dodecad 12B has the Sicilian samples, along with the Roman, but doesn't have all the Anatolian sources, as I noted, just the Barcin and Kumtepe....
  2. YGORCS: So lets take your theory as outlined in...

    YGORCS: So lets take your theory as outlined in points 1, 2 and 3 above and these different sources of Neolithic EEF from Pelopponese, vs. Barcin, va Aegean. In post 435, Angela cited the Klinc et al...
  3. Very interesting story.

    Very interesting story.
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    Dimanto_Ruben: Your results are 100% consistent...

    Dimanto_Ruben: Your results are 100% consistent with what I have seen from other folks with 100% of their ancestors from Southern Italy/Sicily. R437 is my closest Iron Age Roman sample as it is for...
  5. Jovialis: Thanks, your results confirm my ex ante...

    Jovialis: Thanks, your results confirm my ex ante priors. They follow the same general pattern as mine, ASH068 sort of stands out, then ASH067, then large break where from ASH066 to ASH2-3, our...
  6. No problem, I am active, correct, but I stay in...

    No problem, I am active, correct, but I stay in my lane so to speak. No offense but part of my American of Sicilian Italian risk aversion, just want to be an active member and rather the mods and...
  7. Dimanto Ruben: I am not a Moderator or advisor,...

    Dimanto Ruben: I am not a Moderator or advisor, you should ask one of them, but I do recall there being some older threads specifically about Ancient Romans. Jovialis I think started those threads,...
  8. Well with respect to my Distances, it does seem...

    Well with respect to my Distances, it does seem ASH068 is different for me, vs the other ASH samples. So if ASH068 is basically Greek like, it would explain why that sample is closer to me vs the...
  9. Ygorcs: Following up to my post 501, again I was...

    Ygorcs: Following up to my post 501, again I was just playing around with some samples. I used all the Ancient Sardinian samples from Fernandes et al 2020 an all the Roman samples from Antonio et al...
  10. YGORCS: I was just playing around with all the...

    YGORCS: I was just playing around with all the Siclian Samples that are in Dodecad 12B and I estimated Sicilian Beaker I4930's coordinates and Sicilian Beaker I4936. Just a quick look at top 25...
  11. ihype2: Those Greek cities come during the 1st...

    ihype2: Those Greek cities come during the 1st millennium BC to be historically accurate, correct, although I still agree with your basic hypothesis, the pre EBA Sicilians were Neolithic_EEF...
  12. KingJohn: The article is using academic jargon a...

    KingJohn: The article is using academic jargon a working paper. The authors probably are putting it out there to get comments from other academicians/scholars on their paper. Given the inability for...
  13. Ok, I understand, In Italy lots of time people...

    Ok, I understand, In Italy lots of time people stay in towns and regions that there, Great, Great, Great Grandparents live and it is probably easier for Italians to go back in time once the civil...
  14. KingJohn: Is that a forum here at Eupedia. They...

    KingJohn: Is that a forum here at Eupedia. They look reasonable, and I used Eurogenes K13, which it and other Eurogenes calculators based on lots of data I have seen personally and here by the...
  15. Dimanto: For the record, not that you meant it in...

    Dimanto: For the record, not that you meant it in a disrespectful way, but no need to take a shot at Americans of Italian ancestry if those folks are indeed Americans of Italian ancestry. There are...
  16. Dimanto_Ruben: I am not sure they are American of...

    Dimanto_Ruben: I am not sure they are American of Italian ancestry. Maybe they are? Kingjohn would know. Here are the top 10 distances for each of those. A619640 is very close to Greek populations,...
  17. Well on my Fathers side, his Fathers parents were...

    Well on my Fathers side, his Fathers parents were born in Trapani Province, Valle Di Belice (the area of the 1968 Earthquake in Sicily. My Fathers Mother's father was born in Agrigento province, a...
  18. DimantoRuben: Thanks for the post. The results...

    DimantoRuben: Thanks for the post. The results you see in in my post #410 are my results compared to the 11 Italians that KingJohn provided GEDMATCH Kit Numbers in his post 381. All those GEDMATCH...
  19. KingJohn: Thanks again, I have never made my...

    KingJohn: Thanks again, I have never made my GEDMATCH kit number available for other users, only researchers. Are these folks that you have the Kit numbers for people you have met on this site, or...
  20. KingJohn: I assume those are individuals and no...

    KingJohn: I assume those are individuals and no population samples. I quickly compared my K13_updated samples with 4 of the samples from Sicily, 1 from Trapani, where 2 Great Grandparents were born...
  21. Ygorcs: I was just experimenting with some...

    Ygorcs: I was just experimenting with some samples from Eurogenes K13 Ancient. I just used 64 samples from Mesolithic and Neolithic, no Roman Samples, except the WHG, and wanted to see what model fit...
  22. Ok, I appreciate your response. So again, the...

    Ok, I appreciate your response. So again, the context I laid out above is is the major context of my post when you get down to it. As I have noted several times, My Ancestry DNA results says 97%...
  23. Very reasonable post. I actually had a hint about...

    Very reasonable post. I actually had a hint about the differences in Steppe populations based on that paper that modeled Steppe EHG about 60% and CHG/Iran_NEO about 40%. One only look at the...
  24. Ygorcs: I agree with you when your dealing with...

    Ygorcs: I agree with you when your dealing with academics who are trying to reconstruct history of populations, a few percents here or there will not matter. For me personally, I think research...
  25. Ok, then the average Sicilian not having less...

    Ok, then the average Sicilian not having less than 5% is not 100% correct, wouldn't you agree, 2/3 will be +/- 1 Standard deviation, 95% will be +/- 2 Standard deviations, so for the sake of...
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