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    As such, matches at 12 STRs will not tell you...

    As such, matches at 12 STRs will not tell you much.
    At this level, you can exactly match someone with a MRCA who lived 4000/5000 ybp.
    What are your matches' terminal SNPs ? Do they also fall under...
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    Personnally I think that it is from 1000 BC...

    Personnally I think that it is from 1000 BC (based on the findings of the authors of the paper), but I am not an authority on the subject and I know that it is debated.
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    The oldest R1a-Z93 ancient sample in the Balkans...

    The oldest R1a-Z93 ancient sample in the Balkans was found in Bulgaria and is dated around 1675 BC. Its ID is I2163 and you can read about it here. https://www.nature.com/articles/nature25778#Sec16...
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    Poll: There is a new Hungarian I-Y3120* sample on the...

    There is a new Hungarian I-Y3120* sample on the ytree (future new subclade BY154615).

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    Does this new sample add anything meaningful to the debate regarding the place of origin of CTS10228...
  5. Thanks for the post Illyricum. I have read the...

    Thanks for the post Illyricum.

    I have read the 2012 Klyosov/Rozhanski paper a while ago. But I think that their conclusions about M417’s expansion from the Balkans are not accurate. The same for...
  6. Yes, I don't have enough data (from different...

    Yes, I don't have enough data (from different regions of balkans) on subclades to make better statements

    You can look at yfull to have an (uncomplete) idea of the subclades today present in the...
  7. Where could I found more precise information on...

    Where could I found more precise information on this?
    I gave a look on poreklo, but in their summary of 2019 (in english) they only mention 4 subclades for R-Z280 and 3 for R-M458.
  8. To have a complete picture, there are also a...

    To have a complete picture, there are also a R-Y3226* sample (from Tepelena) and a new R-YP515* sample (from Mallakastër), so two additional founder effects.

    Do you know if the Plan/Pult clans...
  9. As usual, Dibran's posts are detailed, well...

    As usual, Dibran's posts are detailed, well reasonned and documented and I appreciate them for that. But as such, you cannot accurately summarize them in a one sentence statement.

    Whatever R1a...
  10. Thanks, I found the thread and will ask him...

    Thanks, I found the thread and will ask him myself.
    For yseq and yfull samples, there is another tool online: https://phylogeographer.com/scripts/heatmap.php

    If you look at the heatmaps of...
  11. Thanks for the map. Helpful as always. How did...

    Thanks for the map. Helpful as always.
    How did you generate it ?
    Can you make one for my terminal subclade?
  12. Dibran answered your question much better than I...

    Dibran answered your question much better than I could and I thank him for that.



    No. I suggest that, at least for the time being, it is not possible to splitt them like you did.

    Besides,...
  13. Thank you too. I would say it is one of the...

    Thank you too. I would say it is one of the possibilities (Slav, Goth or Norman see post # 61 above) but modern distribution and the limited number of samples positive for YP3994 do not allow to hold...
  14. According to Rrënjet, Albanians have 7,4% R1a...

    According to Rrënjet, Albanians have 7,4% R1a lineages, with little difference between North (6,6%) and South (8,6 %). 3 % are under M458, 2 % under CTS1211 and 2,2 % unspecified M417 (most likely to...
  15. [...] Gannicus, Dacians might have had their...

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    Gannicus, Dacians might have had their share of I2a and R1a (which remains to be proved by ancient samples) but I believe that there are a few objections to your hypothesis.

    Romanians and...
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    Poll: It cannot be ruled out. As the geography would...

    It cannot be ruled out.
    As the geography would be relevant for the chronology of the events, where would you say the Goths picked it up and assimilated it ?
    Or do you think that it was an original...
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    Poll: For what I know, the non included samples are...

    For what I know, the non included samples are those for which the age estimation was not finished when the last update (8.09) was completed. Those which are now ready will be included with the...
  18. Hi Olyve, from what I know the region called...

    Hi Olyve, from what I know the region called Epirus - including the mountains of Suli - was settled long before the 16th century.

    Among Albanians (and I do not know if the same logic would apply...
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    Poll: I know that nothing was published about it on...

    I know that nothing was published about it on their site.
    I wrote that because the decrease affected many other subclades (under R1a and R1b as well). I do not think that only newly added samples...
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    Poll: It seems that you were right Çerç. With the...

    It seems that you were right Çerç.
    With the last update, I-Y3120 TMRCA decreased to 1800 ybp.
    It might the result of a change in the computation method since several other subclades seem also...
  21. R1a-CTS1211 > CTS8816 > Y2902 > YP3994 in Albania and in the Balkans

    My fatherline has been present in Gjirokastër during at least two centuries (I need to do some research in the ottoman defters to go further back in time). It is now present in various city districts...
  22. Based on current estimates our lineages are 4200...

    Based on current estimates our lineages are 4200 years distant from each other if you are confirmed YP321. I guess this is quite distant in time (although the geographical distance is much smaller)....
  23. Thanks Trojet. Yfull changed the TMRCA of...

    Thanks Trojet.

    Yfull changed the TMRCA of R-Y2902 from 2400 ybp to 2000 ybp 4 months ago. And now they reversed it with no clear reason. In FTDNA's R1a-Y1392 Project they write that the branch's...
  24. With the last update a few days ago, R-Y2902's...

    With the last update a few days ago, R-Y2902's TMRCA jumped 500 years in the past (without addition of a significant number of new samples, just based upon R-Y3226's TMRCA). It is now 2500 ybp. Does...
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    It is here. I hope it works:...

    It is here. I hope it works:
    https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/39919-Potential-R1a-M458-sample-discovered-in-Bronze-Age-South-West-Germany?highlight=bronze+age+R1a+M458
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