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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDLarpZEsyk ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDLarpZEsyk

    Fifty-six years ago, and yet capable of giving me goosebumps today. Some music doesn't age.
  2. Thread: Magna Graecia

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    It just took us that long to get back to that...

    It just took us that long to get back to that level; with the help of statues and copies of statues dug up all over Italy, of course.

    When I first saw colorized marble statues it was very off...
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    Moral of the story for me, is, if you don't know...

    Moral of the story for me, is, if you don't know the exact timeline for each place then you don't know how to interpret the genetics of the bones you find from a certain date. The history of Apulia...
  4. Geneticists and Evolutionary Biologists were the...

    Geneticists and Evolutionary Biologists were the holdouts in science, refusing to sell out to the Woke mob. I fear they're folding as well. It's like Mao's Cultural Revolution, a madness that wins...
  5. Thread: "WOKE" America

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    Amen to that. Haters gonna hate. It's a...

    Amen to that. Haters gonna hate.

    It's a tragedy what happened to Amerindians, but the biggest problem was that they had no immunity to European diseases, something about which nothing could be...
  6. It just goes on and on. Now even the Finns have...

    It just goes on and on. Now even the Finns have Jewish and Northwest African ancestry.

    This sort of stuff is going to bring the whole discipline into disrepute eventually.
  7. This is the problem with doing averages. One or...

    This is the problem with doing averages. One or two extreme outliers can throw everything off, using the wrong reference sample for North African ancestry is another problem and just amplifies the...
  8. Happily. This is what you posted: "However...

    Happily.

    This is what you posted: "However this shift was far more dramatic than the an admixture between BA/IA Italians and BA/IA Aegeans would produce. Most of it is attributed to Levantine and...
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    Only if you didn't use G25. Who knows if the...

    Only if you didn't use G25. Who knows if the coordinaates are correct?
  10. Anything to say about your gross...

    Anything to say about your gross misinterpretation of the Balkan paper? How do you explain that? Did you read the WHOLE paper? Or perhaps you thought we hadn't?

    How about Antonio et al? Missed the...
  11. I said much the same thing. Some of the posters...

    I said much the same thing. Some of the posters in this thread either don't read every line of the paper and look at every graph, but just search for a sentence which will support their position, or...
  12. For crying out loud, I'm even seeing "modeling"...

    For crying out loud, I'm even seeing "modeling" using samples which overlap, or are completely inaccurate in terms of their coordinates. It's like being in a fun house mirror.
  13. OMG. You said four papers suggested a significant...

    OMG. You said four papers suggested a significant Levantine input in Italy. I said it was one, the paper on the Etruscans. which, by the way, shows a graph indicating that, but in the text says it...
  14. Thread: Magna Graecia

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    People at anthrogenica have questioned why we on...

    People at anthrogenica have questioned why we on this site created new coordinates for K12b. This is why.

    He can't be trusted. Any results based on his programs can't be trusted. There's a reason...
  15. FOUR? Please quote me from papers other than this...

    FOUR? Please quote me from papers other than this latest one where it was stated that a Levantine component was part of the shift in Italians.

    Just trying to keep the discussion honest, my friend.
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    ^^Well, I'd dump whatever source you're using...

    ^^Well, I'd dump whatever source you're using because clearly whoever created the coordinates made a serious error. The results obviously don't match the admixture chart for the Amorim et al SZ1.
    ...
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    The coordinates from Vahaduo:...

    The coordinates from Vahaduo: Szolad1:Amorim_2018,4.29,3.44,3.25,0,28.24,25.58,0.87,0.18,6.87,3.48,23.79,0

    Coordinates from Jovialis' list:...
  18. That's mistake number one; you're still reading...

    That's mistake number one; you're still reading his posts.
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    Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you, because if...

    Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you, because if you're talking about SZ1, it is a Bronze Age sample found at the same site. He's not remotely Mycenaean like. The closest match, at a distance of close to...
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    So, it "is" all about the Greeks. You want to...

    So, it "is" all about the Greeks. You want to deny them their part in the formation of populations outside of Greece, or at least minimize their contribution. How very sad.

    God forbid that in the...
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    Do you realize you completely missed the point? ...

    Do you realize you completely missed the point?

    Btw, no one ever said the Tuscans don't have ancestry from north of the Alps. People who were probably about half "steppe" like and about half...
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    I completely understand his approach. Problem is...

    I completely understand his approach. Problem is that it's completely faulty, as is the mainstream consensus in his own field. Or maybe you don't know that?

    You just agree with him because it...
  23. Amazing how some people won't even take Nick...

    Amazing how some people won't even take Nick Patterson, who is no graduate student, seriously when he specifically says "qpfstats" produced erroneous answers. I don't know how anyone could be more...
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    I'd like to see the statement in an academic...

    I'd like to see the statement in an academic paper that they did an isotope analysis on these bones and therefore know that she was born in Croatia and moved across the Adriatic to Martinoscuro, and...
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    OMG, you actually cite that loon Florin Curta????...

    OMG, you actually cite that loon Florin Curta????

    "Curta is known for his usage of post-processual and post-structuralist approach in explaining Slavic ethnogenesis and migrations by which is...
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