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  1. thanks for sharing interesting although...

    thanks for sharing interesting
    although dissapointed
    that i don't see any breaking of the E1
    to subbranch
    if they were y sequenced at least show us
    the branches like in the recent turkish...
  2. thats interesting :good_job: i think we can get...

    thats interesting :good_job:
    i think we can get some idea what were the main haplogroups
    in mesopotamia
    by this future paper :

    Altınışık N. Ezgi et al. First Genomic Insights into...
  3. So only 2.8% Q Thats low % If anything we...

    So only 2.8% Q
    Thats low %
    If anything we need to look more
    On the dominant y haplogroup
    In this case j1 80% thats huge... :thinking:

    P.s
    I don't think they are descendents of sumerians...
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    not 100% sure but very very likely :smile: ...

    not 100% sure
    but very very likely :smile:

    p.s
    it would be extreme coincidence
    if they just happen to share the kafka surname
    but also the same region of paternal origin
    this is the...
  5. This paper ...

    This paper
    https://bmcecolevol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2148-11-69
    Found 19% e-v13 in phocea
    And 12% e-v13 in smyrna ( izmir):cool-v:
    The samples were taken from people who trace...
  6. Yes, Although not high it fit like a glove to...

    Yes,
    Although not high
    it fit like a glove to the areas
    Of greek colonies
    West, north, :smile:
    And don't forget cyprus 10-13% e-v13
    So some ancient greeks sailed
    To cyprus
    I am no expert on...
  7. this should be intersting future paper:cool-v: ...

    this should be intersting future paper:cool-v:


    Qatar Genome: Insights on Genomics from the Middle East
    Hamdi Mbarek, Geethanjali Devadoss Gandhi, Senthil Selvaraj, Wadha Al-Muftah, Radja Badji,...
  8. Have to admitt the 3.5% e1a in maronite cypriots...

    Have to admitt the 3.5% e1a in maronite cypriots
    Is interesting to me :thinking:
    Since those cases were not y sequenced
    We can only guess the specific branch under e1a they belong to
    Very likely ...
  9. Here is how it splitt for the 21 e-m34:cool-v:...

    Here is how it splitt for the 21 e-m34:cool-v:
    out of 21 e-m34:
    5 in east region ( might be kurds or armenians )
    5 in north region
    5 unknown region
    2 in balkan ( european turkey)
    2 in...
  10. in the supplemental of this paper ...

    in the supplemental of this paper
    https://www.pnas.org/content/118/36/e2026076118/tab-figures-data

    i counted :

    3- e-v22
    14-e-v13
    21-e-m34
    :thinking:
  11. You should convince your hasbund To take an G2...

    You should convince your hasbund
    To take an G2 snp pack
    Or better big y ...
    There are other companies beside ftdna
    Like yseq from germany
    And nebula genomics from usa
    Who sequence y...
  12. https://www.yfull.com/samples-from-paper/540/ ...

    https://www.yfull.com/samples-from-paper/540/


    p.s
    i am not sure all the samples in each y haplogroup present in this paper were uploaded
    to yfull though
  13. yes, we see c6 cluster at much later date...

    yes, we see c6 cluster at much later date :thinking:
  14. it effected some of them not all some are still...

    it effected some of them not all
    some are still c7 :thinking:




    Distance to:
    C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_10 18-1151CE:TAQ022
  15. my mistake i thought they were c6 so etruscans...

    my mistake i thought they were c6
    so etruscans were c7:smile:
    if that is the case there was some eastern shift indeed
    that pulled the mediveal etruscans to c6 cluster:thinking:
  16. maybe jovialis can check her out :thinking: ...

    maybe jovialis can check her out :thinking:

    ETR001_Imperial_Rome_Chiusi_Tuscany,8.19,0,2.62,0.45,33.92,11.31,0,0,12.02,0,31.49,0

    to me she looks like she belonged to c6 cluster
    which is the...
  17. yes you are correct :good_job: she is from older...

    yes you are correct :good_job:
    she is from older paper
    just it was in a list of k12b values of samples salento posted
    for lucas to add to vahaduo k12b ancient tool
    it is still cool she...
  18. thanks to salento:good_job: ...

    thanks to salento:good_job:

    ETR001_Imperial_Rome_Chiusi_Tuscany,8.19,0,2.62,0.45,33.92,11.31,0,0,12.02,0,31.49,0

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiusi




    Distance to:
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    look to me like an early neolithic european...

    look to me like an early neolithic european haplogroup:smile:
  20. In k12b updated: French corsica Distance...

    In k12b updated:
    French corsica



    Distance to:
    VEN008:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021


    9.30416573
  21. that is better with the mtdna also and name of...

    that is better with the mtdna also and name of the sites

    Sample IDSite (Province, Region)2-sigma calibration (IntCal13)ClustermtDNA HaplogroupY-chr HaplogroupY-chr haplogroup SNP
    CAM001Campiglia...
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    Very cool :cool-v: P.s Maybe they are...

    Very cool :cool-v:

    P.s
    Maybe they are descendent of roman auxilary
    Or they arrived from france at some point
    Who knows:thinking:
  23. no oetzi is under g-L91 G2a2a1a2a1a FGC5672...

    no
    oetzi is under g-L91

    G2a2a1a2a1a FGC5672 (8524959 C->T) Germans, Oetzi the Iceman

    https://popgen.us/2014/09/oetzi-the-icemans-y-haplogroup-update/

    ...
  24. from what i see now in the supplemental table...

    from what i see now in the
    supplemental table s1:
    2/8 G2 are derived for L497
  25. source: apricity 780-540 BCE ...

    source: apricity


    780-540 BCE C.Italy_Etruscan R1b1a1b1a1a2 P312
    770-520 BCE C.Italy_Etruscan.Ceu G2a2b2a1 L140/S316
    770-540 BCE C.Italy_Etruscan G2a2b2a1a1b ...
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