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    Help me wrap my head around this. First there is...

    Help me wrap my head around this.
    First there is no modern population close to Minoans, the closest are 4 Jewish groups, and even they are far.
    Then "some modern populations" are ancestral...
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    Which possibility? Oh I just saw the quote. ...

    Which possibility?

    Oh I just saw the quote.

    Yeah I wasn't talking about that. Was asking what Ancient Jews and Phoenician auDNA composition is.
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    Very well though out post by the way. Figure...

    Very well though out post by the way.


    Figure 25

    MLE tree with bootstrap scores (NJ start tree)
    Citation: Indo-European Linguistics 8, 1 (2020) ; 10.1163/22125892-20201000
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    Check this out Stuvane....

    Check this out Stuvane. https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/41368-Indo-European-phylogenetics-with-R-David-Goldstein-Indo-European-Linguistics-V8-I1
  5. What is up with these Anthropologists as of late?...

    What is up with these Anthropologists as of late?
    Hey we found out the patient has cancer through a blood test, sorry can't do no further screening/biopsy. That is how it feels with these half arsed...
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    Do we have ancient Jewish autosomal DNA? Were...

    Do we have ancient Jewish autosomal DNA?
    Were they mostly Anatolian_N ? How would they compare to these Minoan samples? What about Phoenician autosomal (they were moving around, and could have been...
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    Fantastic visualizations Jovialis. Yes, I...

    Fantastic visualizations Jovialis.

    Yes, I think its quite normal when you have such a poor fit to modern populations. Those distances are of course gonna reflect changes in genetic makeup...
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    I do not have access to MTA. What modern...

    I do not have access to MTA. What modern populations is this sample closest to?
  9. Yes. Moldova makes sense too. Depends on the...

    Yes. Moldova makes sense too. Depends on the exact branch and the exact time period if some rumors are true.



    https://i.imgur.com/dCzfBU5.png
  10. From what I read long ago about Philip II, the...

    From what I read long ago about Philip II, the evidence is not 100% conclusive that we are talking about his bones. However there is circumstantial evidence for it.

    I find it peculiar we have so...
  11. Similar to my thoughts so far. The presence of...

    Similar to my thoughts so far. The presence of J2B2 along with the R1B makes me also think that L283 might have been incorporated somewhere out of Europe during the IE expansions, and came to Europe...
  12. Fully agree. It is like we are playing connect...

    Fully agree. It is like we are playing connect the dots, but for some regions and time frames there are too few dots. Hence what might be a cat looks like a fish when you connect the dots.

    I feel...
  13. This is hype! Interesting that out of 8 Y...

    This is hype!

    Interesting that out of 8 Y samples. Only 3 were buried with weapons. And two of them are in their 50s.
    This could be due to some sort of meritocracy, long life more chance to gain...
  14. Is this the samples leaked earlier on Anthro?

    Is this the samples leaked earlier on Anthro?
  15. I see. The thing about autosomal is that within...

    I see. The thing about autosomal is that within 6+ generations the steppe autosomal would fully dilute. And given the life expectancy you could expect 5 generations in 100 year period if not more....
  16. No. But if what Maciamo shared with the graphic...

    No. But if what Maciamo shared with the graphic are samples where these samples in the paper came from, there are 30-40 Sardinian samples from the bronze age somewhere.
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  17. They couldn't have been Beeker? I have heard that...

    They couldn't have been Beeker? I have heard that theory circulating as a suspicion. But am not knowledgeable enough to say.
    Afaik Beakers were IE, and from what I understand of L283 Bronze Age...
  18. I am aware of that. Exactly why I am so...

    I am aware of that. Exactly why I am so interested in the many Sardinian samples in this study. Since the biggest open question for L283 are the 1300 bc Nuragic basal subbranches of l283. Who most...
  19. There are a lot of Sardinian samples not out yet...

    There are a lot of Sardinian samples not out yet from what I understood from the graphic. I am very interested in the Nuragics.
  20. Are more samples coming out? Or different paper...

    Are more samples coming out? Or different paper coming out?
  21. Think it was L283 actually.

    Think it was L283 actually.
  22. That is quite interesting. And it makes a lot of...

    That is quite interesting. And it makes a lot of sense. Could be one of the many factors for the founder effects of IE Y haplogroups.
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    Oh yes friend. I absolutely love her dark...

    Oh yes friend. I absolutely love her dark beautiful eyes! Make me weak at the knees.
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    HAHAH the "hotoid" caught me off guard. We...

    HAHAH the "hotoid" caught me off guard.

    We have similar tastes John. I am in the same boat :P
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    :good_job: Not only is she gorgeous but the way...

    :good_job: Not only is she gorgeous but the way she poses, so cool!
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