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  1. Sticky: Not an amazing fit for me either. But barring 7...

    Not an amazing fit for me either. But barring 7 component fits, no calculator gets be below 2.5 either. I guess it is more about my autosomal mix rather than the calculator.

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    Angela please make some inbox space. Really want...

    Angela please make some inbox space. Really want to pick your brain on something curious.
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    Fascinating. Thank you.

    Fascinating. Thank you.
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    That is neat. Does this mean the Mat tester...

    That is neat.
    Does this mean the Mat tester could be upstream, or rather would it split the clade?
  5. I proposed a way to test a hypothesis. Without...

    I proposed a way to test a hypothesis. Without having a clue what the results would be.
    The results are in line with the thesis of the paper.

    https://i.imgur.com/pCgBcDz.png...
  6. Very interesting point Angela. Which of the 3...

    Very interesting point Angela.

    Which of the 3 Etruscan Pops has any purple in it? Which outlier?

    I wonder if whatever pop contributed the purple to that outlier, did not further do so to shift...
  7. Imagine anyone paying attention to "Of...

    Imagine anyone paying attention to "Of individuals associated with the first time interval, the vast majority (40 of 48) form a genetic cluster here named “C.Italy_Etruscan” that overlaps with...
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    His and your hypothesis are not mutually...

    His and your hypothesis are not mutually exclusive. Assuming Zargos/ North Caucasus origin, a vector through CHG over the Caspain shore is highly likely, as a means into Yamnaya introgression. But...
  9. The thing is. It is a double edged sword. We...

    The thing is. It is a double edged sword.
    We have the first confirmed Etrsucan from around 750BC L283, from that one 2019 paper.

    The only sample of Y-DNA extracted belonged to haplogroup J-M12...
  10. The issue with that is, that if rumors are true,...

    The issue with that is, that if rumors are true, and Aegean IA turns out Marathon like... Then that pretty much creates an equivalence of Etrsucan + East Med/Levant to C.Italian_IA + Aegean_IA. So...
  11. lol, I can not find a single slav on the whole...

    lol, I can not find a single slav on the whole fora I frequent that supports Ingria/Mordovia proxy for slaiv input in the Balkans...

    Neither Mordovian members, neither South Slav members. So what...
  12. Very plausible scenario, albeit I find it...

    Very plausible scenario, albeit I find it unlikely that the whole shift originated within Italy itself.

    This made me think, your point, Paxes and Leopoldos.

    What if. And hear me out.

    What if...
  13. I can really not make up the squares in that...

    I can really not make up the squares in that graphic. Either I am very blind or they are few and far between.

    But assuming that is correct, Lazaridis Minoan paper should be what we base our...
  14. That sounds interesting. I must have skimmed past...

    That sounds interesting. I must have skimmed past it on my first readthrough of the thread.

    So if Campagna was similar to Italics/Etruscans. What could account for where modern Capagnans fall on...
  15. Nice results, especially now that we know the...

    Nice results, especially now that we know the context.
    Coca Cola has got nothing on you, your formula has remained original for 1300 year ;)
  16. "The mtDNA diversity does not seem to change...

    "The mtDNA diversity does not seem to change substantially before and after year 1 CE (fig. S5A). By contrast, the newly reported central Italian individuals from 800 to 1 BCE show ~75% frequency of...
  17. My guess is as a tool. Since from the PCAs, and...

    My guess is as a tool. Since from the PCAs, and the coordinates Jov shared, they seem the closest to modern Italians. Hence they are used in the sample to make a point about potential continuity.
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  18. As Leopoldo Leone said in the part I sniped^,...

    As Leopoldo Leone said in the part I sniped^, this paper and the Danubian limes could not be any more different.
    This paper uses qpADM, and fstats, in conjuction with keeping in line historic and...
  19. Ditto. "During the first half of the first...

    Ditto.

    "During the first half of the first millennium CE, we observe a marked shift in PCA space of all studied individuals toward the Near Eastern cline (Fig.4A), distributed across the genetic...
  20. Is the PCA official? Is the paper out?

    Is the PCA official? Is the paper out?
  21. Can you please clear some inbox space, wanted to...

    Can you please clear some inbox space, wanted to send a PM.

    Edit: Managed to get 1/2 messages sent, still no room for the 2nd. Hopefully will send it tomorrow.
  22. Welp. I did not read the paper when I first...

    Welp. I did not read the paper when I first posted this but I have to say that it is far better than I expected.


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    There is an ongoing debate as to whether Tall el-Hammam could be the...
  23. Because its Iron Age. Iron Age Slovenia. The...

    Because its Iron Age. Iron Age Slovenia. The timeline. Does. Not. Fit.
    As a placeholder sure. As a scientific model. Null.
    They both do not chronologically fit the autosomal makeup. That IA Balkan...
  24. Neither did you get my point, neither is there a...

    Neither did you get my point, neither is there a point for me to explain it again.

    Guess the discourse in the US is different, modern Balkan nuances take a certain background to fully grasp.
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  25. Evidence that a cosmic impact destroyed ancient city in the Jordan Valley

    In the Middle Bronze Age (about 3,600 years ago or roughly 1650 BCE), the city of Tall el-Hammam was ascendant. Located on high ground in the southern Jordan Valley, northeast of the Dead Sea, the...
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