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Made one also with the modern scaled averages for these pops:



https://i.imgur.com/rDuiyXo.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/998736851416395847/1006706619675050065/unknown.png

Nganasankhan has kept mading very interesting R scripts, and since he made some that work even with G25...

The discussion you are trying to start is too post-modern for me. Poor copycat metallurgists, thoughts and prayers :(

That's what the rumors say. But you never know, people have been waiting for this paper since September last year.

Hope the heatwave that just passed does not repeat, cause up to a week ago it was unbearable ~110F. But at least the sea should help cool off either way.

I think the very title of the paper is a shoutout to the fertile crescent. But I could be wrong.
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Can't wait for the end of the month, when the paper finally comes out. Apart from the CHG waves into Anatolia, I am really interested around the cradle of civilization, for which we have no samples...

Not even sure what I just read in the last two pages of the thread.

Like, cant tell if you people disagree with each other since on both camps more or less the same facts are being reaffirmed.
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I can check using qpADM, do you know the id of the Protovillanovan sample?
But I suspect the model will fail, not because of merit, but rather even in cases where it is plausible, using populations...

I am out of upvotes, and found myself many times trying to upvote you mate. Cheers.

I was trying to somehow have a 3 way model with both a Slavic as well as Imperial Roman eastern shift.
For Slavic I tried everything I could think of, Migration Period CZE Early Slav, modern Polish,...

Played further with the model from yesterday. Maybe ran 7-8 runs.
Only way to make Albanian work for me so far in a 3 way model, goes something like this:

https://i.imgur.com/ZTvGVmF.png

Even...

My maternal Y: https://www.yfull.com/tree/G-M406/
As you can see from the flags all of Caucasus post Eneolithic migration, IE, or EEF could be candidates. The TMRCAs are 9k+... but presence of flags...

Good example. I think the thought experiment you put forward, really points at the problem of anthrogenetics as a whole. Rather what the current models can and can't say for certain. In a sense...

In case my comment was perceived in that light. I also mentioned how G25 or most PCA based models led me astray. In this instance I decided to use the proxies I used just because they supposedly...

M406? Or some other clade? Have family with this clade from South Albania. But the clade is so old, most clades are for G in general, that it is very hard to make sense of it in a historical...

Something something, whispers in the wind are that the East Med outliers / shift should be Dodecanese like. I went ahead and found out what overlaps with Dodecanese to use as a proxy, in essence C4...

https://i.imgur.com/IfksVlY.png

Yep, that se is huge, the model definitively needs those new samples to come out. Albania IA, Vranas Marathon, and hopefully a better Slavic proxy than Avar2....

Eupator, I'm such a noob mate.
So when I was supposed to grab all the files from the Reich site? I grabbed just the .geno... so my path had no other documents but the geno. L M A O

Wrote you a PM.

Thanks a lot!
It seems formal stats is a totally different world results wise to G25 or PCAs, as expected.
I tried using these samples as proxy for rumored future samples simply because they might...

"C:\Users\xyz\Desktop\fstats\ReichData\v50.0_1240K_public.geno"



I did install the packages as well as described here: https://github.com/uqrmaie1/admixtools
Really will give it another go...

Same error I initially got at the same spot, whether I used 1st column names or second column names. Making me think maybe I am missing some libraries?


https://i.imgur.com/r7rGqDs.png
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Edit: So this should fix it?

prefix = "C:/Users/xyz/Desktop/fstats/ReichData/v50.0_1240K_public/v50.0_1240K_public"
my_f2_dir = "C:/Users/xyz/Desktop/fstats/fdir"
library(admixtools)...

Eupator, any idea why I get this error?

prefix = "C:/Users/xyz/Desktop/fstats/ReichData/v50.0_1240K_public"
my_f2_dir = "C:/Users/xyz/Desktop/fstats/fdir"
library(admixtools)...