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"Which civilization had the first system of law? The first formal educational system? The first tax cut? The first love song? The answers were found in excavations of ancient Sumer, a society so...

they are not coming to turkey, they just stay in the 5* hotels.

i believe after Greece make some privatization, suddenly greece will be next shining star. it is the same old story (see turkey)

i am also not expert on any kind of genetics topic. so lets check together at least these links:

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/origins_haplogroups_europe.shtml...

i agree with you about "I2a2" stuff, although you are too harsh in selecting words, but... there are some conflicts in your idea.

1- how can turkish origin people brings J1 to europe since J1...

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Could you briefly explain why you hate putin and medvedev?
putin reminds me erdoğan of turkey.
thanks

I ignore you. Please don't quote or answer me.

no need to answer your groundless aggression better to edit my post no:46 :laughing:

did you listen hayko? he is one of my favourite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ26nqyLc0M

may be this one is better version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYvpltS7Kwg&feature=related

either i am very bad in writing or you dont understand what you read. what you wrote is racist by itself. anyway, ....

my reply to post no:38 are not allowed yet. i dont know the reason. but, elias i advise you make a simple search about memlukes

from wiki:
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A Mamluk (Turkish: Memlük, also called Kölemen;...

i gues i can not express myself well, may be because of language problem.

1st, about excuse, i said before that i personally excuse from armenians for this shit, because i feel that such a case...

after 200.000 bosnian was alrready death in 3 years. if there was petrol in bosnia, everything would be different.

1,5 years ago:5181

Reinaert, it is not about excuse what I am trying to explain. It is about the double face of west. I.e. Nobody took any measurements against Serbs during the Bosnia case, but everybody try to help...

So, the soldiers and burocracy in ottoman were slaves. They were ruling the Empire. Which kind of social democracy is it? What is the relationship of mamuluks with ottoman?

a well educated modern country, in his prime, killed thousands of children and women. and you think that they are right because they did it for a "good reason" (ending the war).
so;
- may be...

i also think that turkey must face and apologize if there is such a shit in his history (i dont mean there was nothing happened). and i can understand armenians.

but, to be forced to apologize by...

i am not an expert on "armenian case" but as far as i know most of the armenians died during the " unprovoked forced relocation" also (because of freezing cold and starving).

even in this page it...

you mean "trail of tears" happened just because of some bad apples? changing the population distribution of all continent and bringing the slaves from africa and breeding them with respect to their...

:)) i will steal it.

you have great "opinion"s.

:)
which country does speak turkish from former ottoman empire?

even ottoman didnt prefer to use turkish.

e1b

i guess this is my one and only chance to get some rep.

my grandfathers father was kurdish, however, i dont feel like kurdish. on the other hand, i can understand kurds struggle for having their own country. i hope 1 day there will be peace in that part...

i will. but i need time, because i spend my childhood in 3 different places.

wonderfull.

a very nice thread, thanks.