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  1. Is it above trace levels? Do you have a sample...

    Is it above trace levels? Do you have a sample which has a sufficient resolution and is included in G25? In this case I prefer modern Berbers as a reference by the way, because general Natufian-like...
  2. "My hypothesis" was not however, that only "pure...

    "My hypothesis" was not however, that only "pure Germanics" came in, but Northern shifted people in Late Antiquity and afterwards. So this actually includes e.g. Frankish people of Gallo-Roman...
  3. I never intended to say that the pull South-East...

    I never intended to say that the pull South-East vs. North-West was caused exclusively by historical Northern European admixture or that all of Italia was mixed like "Imperial_Roman". Basically its...
  4. They were no foragers any more but got taught by...

    They were no foragers any more but got taught by Indo-Iranians and developed their own cultural adaptation for the fringe regions of habitation by people with a higher culture at that time. Most...
  5. What is significant then, can you give me a...

    What is significant then, can you give me a number? 25 percent? 50 percent? 75 percent? For the North many regions have well above 25 percent historical immigration from Germanics and Slavs...
  6. I don't know, but I presume. In my runs Lombardy...

    I don't know, but I presume. In my runs Lombardy and Tuscany have both increased levels of Deu_MA-like ancestry. Its also interesting that in this recent study on Italian yDNA the samples from...
  7. Most of it was in my opinion secondary dispersals...

    Most of it was in my opinion secondary dispersals from within Italy, the original settlement was more concentrated. I might just, once more, refer to Bergamo valley as an example.
  8. I wouldn't call that arctic foragers, because...

    I wouldn't call that arctic foragers, because they were rather Iron Age conquerors and traders. In the same way as the Corded Ware people, when moving up to the North, were no longer foragers any...
  9. @Angela: Wasn't that the paper with the bad...

    @Angela:


    Wasn't that the paper with the bad references without German? I know that paper and mentioned it earlier, don't know whether this exact graph is from it. In any case AJ have significant...
  10. The exact origin of E1b1b is not known. It is as...

    The exact origin of E1b1b is not known. It is as or actually more likely it originated in North Western Africa (Nile valley/Egypt) or the Levante/Southern Near East. The Horn of Africa origin theory...
  11. Can you please tell what their results on 23andme...

    Can you please tell what their results on 23andme look like?
  12. Sure, that's possible, but the argument you make...

    Sure, that's possible, but the argument you make is probably no safe one. Because artisans, traders, warriors and other people, whole clans and small tribes, moved around far and wide latest since...
  13. That's of course nonsense, most of the times, but...

    That's of course nonsense, most of the times, but it doesn't mean, to come back to the original debate, that he couldn't have had a Thracian, Greek, Roman or even Levantine ancestor from Roman times....
  14. I agree, most of them yes, but all? That's the...

    I agree, most of them yes, but all? That's the question and its no trivial one and being discussed for long. Remember, you get hits in the "Imperial_Roman" direction in most of the Roman provinces,...
  15. That's exactly what I want to capture: The Roman...

    That's exactly what I want to capture: The Roman Imperial era migrations! Like you said, they came to this place from different parts of the empire and approach the "Imperial_Roman" profile. That's...
  16. Is there a selection from G25 Imperial Roman...

    Is there a selection from G25 Imperial Roman without outliers to the NCE or Near East? Possibly even averaged for a comparison? Would like to compare the position and results.
  17. If I don't use Imperial_Roman the unique signal...

    If I don't use Imperial_Roman the unique signal gets lost in more mixed population averages. In individuals, like stated before, I can even work with the Latini sample, but then the supposedly...
  18. If we split up Imperial_Roman it shows Anatolian...

    If we split up Imperial_Roman it shows Anatolian BA, but also additional Levantine/Near Eastern, North African and Northern European ancestry. Its interesting if you split up the otherwise quite...
  19. It is no construct but a sample and the genetic...

    It is no construct but a sample and the genetic profile, the general position of this Imperial_Roman sample approaches something which seems to have been present in the Empire. If you don't use it,...
  20. The main differences between most West Eurasians...

    The main differences between most West Eurasians are the ancestral proportions, not the basic ancestral components, especially if you take this very basic components as a reference. An...
  21. I'm just defending the position I deem to be...

    I'm just defending the position I deem to be right, as long as I don't have the proof for it being wrong - in case of which I would change my opinion.

    You said one cannnot work with the Imperial...
  22. Doesn't mean the tools are bad or the references...

    Doesn't mean the tools are bad or the references rigged. To say so would be quite an accusation. But even if true, what I would deny, the results are still solid as the simple run from above proves....
  23. Iran_N was present earlier, but usually (wo....

    Iran_N was present earlier, but usually (wo. outliers) on a very low level. I agree that the lack of samples is a pity and am happy to embrace new ones. In the meantime, concerning accuracy: I looked...
  24. I'm sure better models can be made, but hardly...

    I'm sure better models can be made, but hardly without the Imperial Roman samples. Probably selecting them would improve it, but I have my doubts. I probably will try with a selection.

    Also, I...
  25. It proves that you need additional, more Eastern,...

    It proves that you need additional, more Eastern, Iranian shifted sources to account for a lack of Imperial_Roman as a more solid reference. Imperial Roman got it, but so do modern Italians,...
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