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    At least 3-4 studies on ancient samples from...

    At least 3-4 studies on ancient samples from Italy are about to be published. At least two include ancient samples from southern Italy, and one definitely includes samples from Sicily. Instead,...
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    They are very far from average Venetians, and...

    They are very far from average Venetians, and they look very much like the Germanic or Slavic-speaking linguistic minorities of the Alps (Timau, Sappada, Cimbrians...).

    If it's not recent...
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    Only recent Slavic or Germanic admixture can move...

    Only recent Slavic or Germanic admixture can move them to that position. If they have recent Croatian or Slovenian admixture they can't be more considered fully Northern Italian.

    Completely...
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    I can only use the G25 at the moment, so as to...

    I can only use the G25 at the moment, so as to take everything with due caution. There are 16 Corsicans in the 2019 study as I remember, in the G25 Davidski included 14 of them. Out of 14, 4 are...
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    Eurogenes was being discussed. Dodecad K12 is a...

    Eurogenes was being discussed. Dodecad K12 is a completely different thing.



    Some academic samples from Northeastern Italy, from Raveane 2019, end up among the Croatians and Hungarians. But of...
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    Eurogenes almost always uses academic samples...

    Eurogenes almost always uses academic samples (although he chooses which ones to use). The notorious Italian Nordicist has nothing to do with Eurogenes. It is the academic sample from Corsica (at...
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    Knowing many Apulians in real life, it's exactly...

    Knowing many Apulians in real life, it's exactly as you say.
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    Relevant to the issue? What would be the issue?...

    Relevant to the issue? What would be the issue? Going to count every foreigner who has passed through Italy?

    Sources on the presence of French and Germans in Italy?
    I'll have to look into that.
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    It was known to historians. It is not a...

    It was known to historians. It is not a discovery. But they are in fact individuals, not large groups of people. If we're talking about foreign language communities on the borders of Italy instead,...
  10. Thanks, I haven't seen it. Then we delete this...

    Thanks, I haven't seen it. Then we delete this one.
  11. Copper Age–Bronze Age transition in southern Iberia

    Genomic transformation and social organization during the Copper Age–Bronze Age transition in southern Iberia


    SCIENCE ADVANCES • 17 Nov 2021• Vol 7, Issue 47 • DOI: 10.1126/sciadv.abi7038
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  12. PF7589/Z2118 to be more precise. ...

    PF7589/Z2118 to be more precise.

    https://i.imgur.com/pfJIHmw.png

    In any case it's dated 356-96 BCE, it's Hellenistic period, it is not the most appropriate date to draw conclusions concerning...
  13. Table_S1a from sciadv.abi7673_Table_S1.xlsx ...

    Table_S1a from sciadv.abi7673_Table_S1.xlsx

    https://www.science.org/doi/suppl/10.1126/sciadv.abi7673/suppl_file/sciadv.abi7673_Tables_S1_to_S4.zip
  14. Caruso means "boy" in the far southern Italian...

    Caruso means "boy" in the far southern Italian languages (Sicilian, Calabrian...).

    [propr. carusu, originally "shorn": perhaps Lat. cariosus "carious," later "smooth, bald"]
  15. Those are both Latins. This is your original...

    Those are both Latins. This is your original post.




    So, do you agree with me that there is no evidence that R1b-Z2103 has been found in Etruscans?
  16. In fact there isn't, I haven't found it either....

    In fact there isn't, I haven't found it either. If someone can provide us with a source it would be greatly appreciated. I'm serious, can someone point us to exactly which Etruscan and Latin samples...
  17. C'mon, what would be the source? A forum? The...

    C'mon, what would be the source? A forum? The usual Anthrogenica? I remind you that OP is simply a poster and that the most incorrect interpretations about the Etruscans have been spread on...
  18. Maybe I'm missing something. I checked now in...

    Maybe I'm missing something. I checked now in Table_S1, and the only Z2103 found in the study is from the Imperial era, so R1b-Z2103 has not been found in Etruscans yet.

    I don't remember who and...
  19. These tools should always be taken cum grano...

    These tools should always be taken cum grano salis, a grain of salt. Using the entire G25 datasheet with Vahaduo PCA.

    https://i.imgur.com/yRPJqZS.png

    https://i.imgur.com/jjaDf8S.png
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    Still unclear because the clades of J2b2-L283...

    Still unclear because the clades of J2b2-L283 found in Nuragic people seem to be different from the one found in the Etruscans that is under northern Balkans samples.
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  21. Because some of them were likely only of partial...

    Because some of them were likely only of partial north African ancestry. One thing that the geneticists seem to ignore is that the Punics that were in Etruria in many cases were of the Sardo-Punic...
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    Seems pretty pseudo-scholarship.

    Seems pretty pseudo-scholarship.
  23. I don't know, but would it change much? I...

    I don't know, but would it change much?



    I was not suggesting that what you claimed was not true. The trajectory looks different, though.
  24. North Africans are in the western side in a PCA,...

    North Africans are in the western side in a PCA, that doesn't look like their trajectory.

    https://i.imgur.com/yLmAKkD.jpg
  25. Yes, and in the Iron Age Iberians (IA_Iberia)...

    Yes, and in the Iron Age Iberians (IA_Iberia) were closer to Basques rather than to Etruscans and Latins.

    https://i.imgur.com/oHaetaC.png
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