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    Thank you, I seem to have missed this Verteba...

    Thank you, I seem to have missed this Verteba paper and this British paper, as I haven't been on in a while, is there a link to the 4ev13? They are autosomally plotting corded ware like?
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    Has there been some new ancient ev13 finds or...

    Has there been some new ancient ev13 finds or something?
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    nice work, I would really love to have a higher...

    nice work, I would really love to have a higher resolution one, if you can be bothered to, please upload it to imgur.com, it is very easy and then you can share the link here
  4. Possibly of political interest to this is the...

    Possibly of political interest to this is the revolt against the Illyrian kingdom that is mentioned by Polybius, in which Teuta had to withdraw Illyrian troops from Phoenice (modern Finiq, Albania)...
  5. The name of the Illyrian queen Teuta is not...

    The name of the Illyrian queen Teuta is not proto-Albanian.


    It is cognate with Gothic. Thiudans [king]


    It meant "queen" from an older West Indo-European. *teutā [country, people].

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    If this argument that there was a "Daco-Mysian"...

    If this argument that there was a "Daco-Mysian" invasion of Thrace at some point is accurate, is it possible this is the same period in which Mysians also made it to Anatolia?
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    It is contested, but nonetheless it should be...

    It is contested, but nonetheless it should be kept in mind that serious scholars of Dacian like Georgiev argued that "Daco-Mysian" and Thracian are different branches quite far apart.

    In the...
  8. He also argued that the etymology of Mygdonia...

    He also argued that the etymology of Mygdonia comes from Mys-gdon with -gdon being cognate of Greek cthon "land" (as in auto-cthon), so literaly Mysian land/country.
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  9. In the Albanian oral epics, a type of grave...

    In the Albanian oral epics, a type of grave culture is mentioned, namely that of megalthic graves.

    In the Albanian Songs of the Frontier Warriors, a passage describes the construction of a...
  10. He used the term Daco-Mysian. He believed the...

    He used the term Daco-Mysian. He believed the Mysians and Moesians had same origin, and the y -> oe sound change in Mysi -> Moesi is reflected in Albanian.

    He should have used the term...
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    Again, not Albania, maybe the pre-proto-Albanian...

    Again, not Albania, maybe the pre-proto-Albanian language speakers were in contact with the catacomb culture, or at its periphery or something. They had not yet descended into the balkans at this...
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    This is not suggesting sintashta reached Albania,...

    This is not suggesting sintashta reached Albania, but that the long ago ancestor of Albanian was in contact somehow, either directly of by network with, Sintashta, to have these terms in common.

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    This of course suggests that the ancestor of the...

    This of course suggests that the ancestor of the Albanian language was in contact with Sintashta culture, to have developed these terms with Indo-Iranian in common.
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    Yes, for asia there seems to be no doubt that...

    Yes, for asia there seems to be no doubt that sintashta is the vector of horse spread.

    Interestingly, Albanian only has isoglosses with Indo-Iranian branch in words related to Horse-breeding
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    Peake, who she refers to, made that association...

    Peake, who she refers to, made that association explicitly.

    Referencing him, she mentions how this western expansion of "southern Russian" steppemen at the ending of the third millenium bc /...
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    This is the region that DOM2 comes from....

    This is the region that DOM2 comes from. Sintashta is peripheral to this region at the most eastern.

    This falls within the late "Catacomb culture" region

    https://i.imgur.com/4GIFWSt.png
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    "Modern domestic horses ultimately replaced...

    "Modern domestic horses ultimately replaced almost all other local populations as they expanded rapidly across Eurasia from about 2000 BC"


    1000 years after Yamnaya expansion, so not with...
  18. Some examples he cites: Dacian. Amalusta...

    Some examples he cites:


    Dacian. Amalusta [camomile]
    Albanian. Ambël [sweet]


    Dacian. Drubetis [placename]
    Albanian. Dru [wood]
  19. This exact region is where Georgiev argued that...

    This exact region is where Georgiev argued that Albanian descended from a non-Illyrian, non-Thracian, specifying Dardania, which he called "Daco-Mysian".


    He believed Dardania had an Albanian...
  20. Contrast with the Paeonian capital that appears...

    Contrast with the Paeonian capital that appears in the Iliad: "Amudon/Amydon" which Georgiev etymologises as *ambh(i)-udon meaning "around the water" (the first chapter in that screenshot)

    This is...
  21. This etymology is supported further by Shkurda in...

    This etymology is supported further by Shkurda in Kotor, which is a gorge.

    A gorge is by definition: a narrow valley between hills or mountains, typically with steep rocky walls and a stream...
  22. Like proposed etymologies of Skodra, probably...

    Like proposed etymologies of Skodra, probably related to Lithuanian. Skardus/skardingas [steep, deep], Lithuanian Skardis. [steep slope].

    The *sk cluster doesn't fit it being of an Albanian origin.
  23. I think there must have been more living adjacent...

    I think there must have been more living adjacent proto-Albanian dialects before that bottleneck event, but we do not descend from those people, at closest they are cousins that we have a certain...
  24. Our best chance now comes from looking within...

    Our best chance now comes from looking within this triangle, as it is the only positive evidence that is agreed on by both Illyrian and non-Illyrian proponents (matzinger, etc).

    So this area...
  25. So in this scenario, we can imagine 300-10,000...

    So in this scenario, we can imagine 300-10,000 proto-Albanians surviving the barbarian migrations, and being moved southwest.

    Then, once settled in a new area, maybe north-Albania first and then...
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