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  1. On the right track. The Balkans was once one of...

    On the right track. The Balkans was once one of the "refugia" (Italy and Iberia the others) during the last glacial maximum, and the "refugees" followed the ice to the Baltic area. ...
  2. The Slavic thing is way exaggerated, even for...

    The Slavic thing is way exaggerated, even for "South Slavs." It's akin to Arabic (and modern English) in that the language spread much farther than the original speakers. All these people on forums...
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    I remember reading someplace that you can get a...

    I remember reading someplace that you can get a hint of the T you were exposed to by looking at your fingers. Ring finger longer than index = more testosterone; index longer = less.

    Growing up in...
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    Poll: Mixed. I haven't met lots of Turks, but even...

    Mixed. I haven't met lots of Turks, but even with a low sample size the diversity in phenotype was very notable.
  5. The Ghegs are/were Hallstatt derived. That's...

    The Ghegs are/were Hallstatt derived. That's were I think this signal is coming from.
  6. I think it more accurate to say that people in...

    I think it more accurate to say that people in today's Albania were southern Italian-like until the Ghegs showed up.
  7. Cavalli-Sforza, if I recall, also showed (in his...

    Cavalli-Sforza, if I recall, also showed (in his well-known book) a sharp genetic change as one crosses into the Peloponnese from the Balkans.
  8. Oh yeah. And I doubt the paper would out-and-out...

    Oh yeah. And I doubt the paper would out-and-out say moderns = ancients. It would probably be carefully worded and open to different interpretations.

    Sikeliote might have a stroke, but the usual...
  9. From the get-go I thought "Too good to be true"...

    From the get-go I thought "Too good to be true" about DNA testing ancient Greeks. It wouldn't surprise me if the results are never revealed to the public and just allowed to quietly fade away from...
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    I would think that the Albanians have some...

    I would think that the Albanians have some intimate tie to all this as well, being that the Albanian language is full of Latin.
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    [/FONT] I would think it more important to...

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    I would think it more important to investigate genetic *similarity* rather than genetic *quantity*. I doubt representation has much to do with it. Do you understand how this algorithm...
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    Romanians and Bulgarians aren't as Slavic...

    Romanians and Bulgarians aren't as Slavic (genetically) as the others. The Italian situations is obvious. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what's going on here.

    .2-14.4% "Slavic"...
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    Greece was invaded in the Iron Age, and this put...

    Greece was invaded in the Iron Age, and this put a dent in the population structure.
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    I used the term somewhat loosely as "anything...

    I used the term somewhat loosely as "anything pre-Slavic."
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    There must be more to it than just Albanian...

    There must be more to it than just Albanian influence in the Peloponnese. Arvanites are a minority. Most of the Balkan results I see on 23andMe forums are getting high Peloponnese. I'm pretty sure...
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    This. It's also interesting that on 23andMe...

    This. It's also interesting that on 23andMe these days I notice many Balkanites getting Peloponnesian as part of their Ancestry.
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    I honestly don't see them being in any great...

    I honestly don't see them being in any great hurry to release Classical Greek samples (at least legit ones).
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    Yes. And I've also always wondered if the term...

    Yes. And I've also always wondered if the term "Slav" is just a corruption/adaptation of the Greek word for "Scythian."
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    I could be out of the loop here, but I don't...

    I could be out of the loop here, but I don't recall a lot of "subhuman" treatment of Greeks and Balkanites by the Nazis (at least greater than other invaded countries). Anybody have sources on this?...
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    Many people on these types of forums keep lauding...

    Many people on these types of forums keep lauding the Empuries samples as some sort of Gold Standard for "Greekness." I believe these colonists came from Phocaea--which was in Asia Minor for crying...
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    You know what it is, and it's almost dead. Back...

    You know what it is, and it's almost dead. Back in the grave with Fallmerayer.
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    He's just grasping at straws since the "Slavic...

    He's just grasping at straws since the "Slavic Theory house of cards" is crumbling.
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    It's not just Albanians. I notice on 23andMe...

    It's not just Albanians. I notice on 23andMe other Balkan nationalities (even Romanians) scoring Peloponnese as well. My first reaction is that the Peloponnesian samples are acting as a proxy for...
  24. Sticky: I'm Peloponnesian: Your Top 10...

    I'm Peloponnesian:



    Your Top 10 Archaeogenetic matches by Era...(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you, up to 10 samples per era)Late Bronze Age...
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    The "akis" suffix on Cretan surnames...

    Many Cretans say it's a Turkish diminutive. Are there any Turks out there that can help here? Does Turkish actually use such diminutive suffixes?
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