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    Corded Ware descends from Yamnaya. That's like...

    Corded Ware descends from Yamnaya. That's like saying Italians killed Romans.

    And these localisations are nothing new. R1b-L51 was never found in the steppe.
  2. Can someone ban this clown? All he does is troll...

    Can someone ban this clown? All he does is troll with "Thracian" nonsense. There are 0 academics, archeogenetics or linguistics, in 2022 who support Albanians having anything to do with Thracians.
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    Angela, you do this 1000x more than me. I have...

    Angela, you do this 1000x more than me. I have never posted pictures of modern day people, simply ancient people that are relevant. Looks are not really relevant when talking about a 5 to 6,000 year...
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    There's always examples of anything. The vast...

    There's always examples of anything. The vast majority of blonde hair turns brown in adulthood. It doesn't matter where.

    So it's not wrong to call even light brown hair "blond", because it's...
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    Don't group all Hellenoid people under the same...

    Don't group all Hellenoid people under the same umbrella. It's like comparing northern Russians to Bulgarians. They're both Slavic, but you will see major differences in average phenotype.
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  6. I wouldn't be surprised if even modern Apulians...

    I wouldn't be surprised if even modern Apulians are mostly Balkanic in DNA.
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    The Yamnaya themselves were not light haired, but...

    The Yamnaya themselves were not light haired, but their derivates were clearly so starting with Corded Ware.

    And as for "blonde" hair, most women just dye their hair anyhow. Natural platinum...
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    Jovialis, you're conflating 40 different things...

    Jovialis, you're conflating 40 different things there.

    (1) Iron Age Spartans are Dorians who migrated from the north. These people were genetically originally closer to Illyrians. All Macedonians...
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    It's not a 1:1 correlation for looks vs....

    It's not a 1:1 correlation for looks vs. steppe:eef, but the true ancient Attic/Ionic Greeks (ones with no or little steppe) would have looked like Middle Eastern people today. Colloquially, they...
  10. Dardanians are Illyrian. We have samples from...

    Dardanians are Illyrian. We have samples from northern "North Macedonia" and they plot identical to Illyrians, not Thracians. In fact, so do western Macedonians and Kukes (which borders Kosovo).
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  11. There was an "Aegean" hotzone of E-V13. That...

    There was an "Aegean" hotzone of E-V13. That includes Greece, Bulgaria, West Turkey.
  12. Mate, what are you talking about? Phrygians...

    Mate, what are you talking about? Phrygians aren't Thracians. There is nothing to argue there.

    Clearly, Herotodus on that one specific example was talking out of his ass. Phrygians are not...
  13. Don't even bother arguing with these people. For...

    Don't even bother arguing with these people. For one reason or another Illyrian -> Albanian continuity hurts them.

    First, Albanians weren't Illyrian because that J2B2-L283 Croatian Illyrian had a...
  14. Like I truly don't even understand what Angela is...

    Like I truly don't even understand what Angela is arguing. Italians and Illyrians were cultures that literally came from Central European intrusions. They just didn't dilute almost all their steppe...
  15. What are you even going on about? That Germans...

    What are you even going on about? That Germans have no Germanic blood? 90% of those hits are just Italians and Spaniards.

    Back then it was

    Northern Europe -> Half steppe
    Central Europe -> A...
  16. I am aware, but it's still mostly EEF.

    I am aware, but it's still mostly EEF.
  17. I literally explained all of that in my first...

    I literally explained all of that in my first sentence

    "That's just how Central Europe looked genetically before Germanic and Slavic people moved there."

    Modern Central Europe is much more...
  18. That's just how Central Europe looked genetically...

    That's just how Central Europe looked genetically before Germanic and Slavic people moved there. They would have looked Italian/Illyrian. Modern Albanians plot very closely to Iron Age Hungarians...
  19. @Albanoi You don't realize some clowns here...

    @Albanoi

    You don't realize some clowns here kept saying Albanians aren't Illyrian, because Croatian Illyrians were plotting too north. It was exactly these "E-V13 people". Every year they have a...
  20. Go read the original post and read what I said. ...

    Go read the original post and read what I said. I said "Mycenean-like" as in high-EEF. I was saying southern Illyrians would plot more south of northern Illyrians because they'd have more EEF, and I...
  21. The issue is not my lack of knowledge, but the...

    The issue is not my lack of knowledge, but the fact you consider pseudo-science knowledge. Those people were Phrygians, not Thracians.

    Their attribution as Thracians is clearly nonsense:

    "No...
  22. I'm talking about West Anatolian, not Syrian or...

    I'm talking about West Anatolian, not Syrian or Caucaus people. The area around Constantinople.

    If you use Izmir Byzantine E-V13, he serves as a decent proxy for people that came after him.
  23. Yeah, which I'm doubting in OP. In...

    Yeah, which I'm doubting in OP. In Albania/Croatia, the medieval samples clearly plot more "southeastern" than Iron Age.
  24. You're making statements that are nearly...

    You're making statements that are nearly unfalsifiable. That's not science.

    I can claim there was an alien invasion that cause the PIE migrations. Good luck proving it wrong.
  25. What are you using as a proxy for "Near Eastern"?...

    What are you using as a proxy for "Near Eastern"? The whole point of the paper was to show these large scale movements.
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