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  1. These are his results from the G25 Europa by...

    These are his results from the G25 Europa by Lars:







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  2. It's fitting for someone who was a Classics Minor...

    It's fitting for someone who was a Classics Minor in university, I suppose, and studied Ancient Greek Literature so intently. :)
  3. Wrong again. Have you not read any of...

    Wrong again.

    Have you not read any of Jovialis' posts about the "Minoan LIKE" ancestry which not only he but academics use to partly model modern Italians? Of course we're not talking about...
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    Yes, the Christians had so many rights under the...

    Yes, the Christians had so many rights under the Ottomans. Tell that to the Armenians against whom they committed a genocide.

    You're living in a fantasy land; not someone with whom I will in the...
  5. That's not far apart, not when we're talking of a...

    That's not far apart, not when we're talking of a time span of 2000 years, and a folk migration in between. Your Czechs and Brits and Germans are far apart from the ancient Greeks, not the modern...
  6. Sorry, duplicate post.

    Sorry, duplicate post.
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    Slavery has existed on every continent and every...

    Slavery has existed on every continent and every society in those continents; it didn't need Europeans to bring it there, whether they had 50% steppe related ancestry or 25-30%.

    Regardless, I...
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    By all means show us some more over-exposed...

    By all means show us some more over-exposed pictures of Iranians to show us how "fair" they are.

    What is wrong with you people? WHO CARES IF SOME OF THEM ARE FAIRER THAN OTHERS? I certainly...
  9. Well, as no mainland Greeks plot any further...

    Well, as no mainland Greeks plot any further north than the Tuscans, and in fact usually southeast of them, which is the same for the Albanians, all of you are "Southern", in that sense.
  10. Yes, I'm so anti-Albanian that for years I...

    Yes, I'm so anti-Albanian that for years I pointed out the absurdity of the claims made here that the Albanians were the descendants of Turks.

    You guys have very short memories, and/or no...
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    Now, "that's" music. :)

    Now, "that's" music. :)
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    Well, for one thing Greece and the Balkans might...

    Well, for one thing Greece and the Balkans might have experienced the Enlightenment, which would have made a tremendous difference to intellectual life. Church and State might have been less...
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    One of my favorite, favorite songs. I know it...

    One of my favorite, favorite songs. I know it makes me sound like an old fogey, but they just don't write songs like this anymore, not even in Italian, and there are few singers this good anymore.
    ...
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    Well, now that you've shown us that there are...

    Well, now that you've shown us that there are very fair people in some parts of Iran (unless this is the usual theapricity misappropriation of pictures to support an agenda) I'm sure all the...
  15. All you have proved to me is that I guessed...

    All you have proved to me is that I guessed right, and you're one of the Albanians, or part Albanians, who want to deny any continuity in Greece to any meaningful degree. You are operating, imo, not...
  16. Why do you continue to post straw man arguments....

    Why do you continue to post straw man arguments.

    I never said I was discounting Byzantine historiography, or at least not all of it. However, one has to remember that historians in the past often...
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    A test for memory is part of any well...

    A test for memory is part of any well administered and recognized IQ test.

    If by creativity you mean painting, writing etc., you need a certain I.Q., but certainly nothing above 125 or so.
    ...
  18. Why on earth would you believe anecdotal stories...

    Why on earth would you believe anecdotal stories from acquaintances over genetic analysis in academic papers? Sorry, Matadworf, but it makes no sense to me.

    Plus, there's no way the people of...
  19. : Do you know how many logical fallacies you...

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    Do you know how many logical fallacies you cram into your responses?

    I'll address just two here:

    1. Appeal to authority; specifically Byzantine "historians". Were you one of the members at...
  20. First of all, don't use averages, especially for...

    First of all, don't use averages, especially for Italians; too much variation.

    Second of all, still see Deep Mani and Greek Islanders at a "decent" distance from Mycenaeans. NEVER SAID THEY WERE...
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    Most characteristic trait: IMPATIENCE Btw,...

    Most characteristic trait: IMPATIENCE

    Btw, online or media tests are worthless.
  22. When did I ever say anything of the kind? I'm...

    When did I ever say anything of the kind?

    I'm talking about the fact that certain Peloponnese populations are pretty close to populations like the Mycenaeans, as are some island populations. How...
  23. Some people just can't seem to abide the fact...

    Some people just can't seem to abide the fact that perhaps there are still people on the Greek mainland who are pretty much like the ancient Greeks, and they themselves are very different.

    So,...
  24. I think that's what they're saying, but not just...

    I think that's what they're saying, but not just fewer offspring with congenital disorders; also offspring with a higher functioning cerebral cortex.

    Many recent studies, approaching the subject...
  25. Do you have any idea why as a Sicilian you...

    Do you have any idea why as a Sicilian you usually come out closer to mainland Italians?
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