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    Yeah, the maz word for horse and the connection...

    Yeah, the maz word for horse and the connection with Albanian and Thracian maz sounds interesting.
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    I have been checking Italian sources before on...

    I have been checking Italian sources before on Messapi burial rite and they are an interesting case, early Messapi used mostly burial pits as their funerary practice, while latter adopting the...
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    Emotional damage. :laughing: ...

    Emotional damage. :laughing:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1ojUmdF42U
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    Thanks for the clarification, it sounds plausible.

    Thanks for the clarification, it sounds plausible.
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    At this point i am convinced that you are...

    At this point i am convinced that you are trolling, how would selectively all 18-20% of E-V13 Bulgarians come from Macedonians and Serbs. Ridiculous attempt at propaganda.
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    Montenegrins have massive founder effects , clan...

    Montenegrins have massive founder effects , clan based.

    And it's completely unsound, never heard that majority of E-V13 Bulgarians have Macedonian origin. Doesn't make sense.
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    I don't exclude the possibility that Koszider...

    I don't exclude the possibility that Koszider hoard part of Proto-Illyrians might have included E-V13 which was dragged by R1b-L51 Tumulus people, but that's just a speculation so far. We need proper...
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieYoCisoDrE[

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieYoCisoDrE[
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    I see trolls roaming around, infecting a good...

    I see trolls roaming around, infecting a good thread.
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    Riverman doesn't break character, now he will...

    Riverman doesn't break character, now he will quote you with archeological quotations of Lapush and Suciu de Sus metal working activity, as well as Teleac fortress in Carpathian region. :laughing:
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    I think that you intentionally play games, see...

    I think that you intentionally play games, see the bolded part.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHSPfWYX0AIfFYq?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
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    We have leaks from Early Iron Age South-East...

    We have leaks from Early Iron Age South-East Bulgaria site called Kapitan-Andreevo full of E-V13, this site is classified by Bulgarian archaeologists as part of Psenicevo Culture which is related to...
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    Why do you tongue-twist words? He also...

    Why do you tongue-twist words?



    He also says it's impossible for Albanian to be Illyrian descended, we have a case of two different languages.
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    John Basset Trumper supports a Central European...

    John Basset Trumper supports a Central European origin for Albanoid as well. It's likely that Pre/Proto-Albanoid came during Bronze to Iron Age transition in Central Balkans, probability is good,...
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    That's not true, he clearly states and groups...

    That's not true, he clearly states and groups language families, he groups Illyrian in East Alpine Block OAB language group and Albanian, Greek and Thracian in Balkanic IE not hinting in any...
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    Funny that he quotes Matzinger 2018 and he...

    Funny that he quotes Matzinger 2018 and he doesn't quote the published book of 2021. Matzinger is refuting Illyrian-Albanian connection as much Albanian-Thracian connection.

    The thing is, we are...
  17. According to the same logic, Albanian cannot be...

    According to the same logic, Albanian cannot be equally Illyrian as well. Selective pick-ups are disshonest.

    Imo, Albanian/Albanoid is a Central Balkan language.
  18. That's not possible for various reasons, i think...

    That's not possible for various reasons, i think Channeled-Ware people pushed into Albania during LBA then the Glasinac-Mat pushed during EIA-MIA and Illyrianizing the region. Like the myth says...
  19. That's what Gimbutas was thinking, from where did...

    That's what Gimbutas was thinking, from where did she grab the idea Glasinac had Koszider hoard objects?!

    https://i.imgur.com/GPYoepo.png

    The Hugelgraberkultur/Tumulus MBA expansion was a...
  20. The picture below is credit of Derite, Matzinger...

    The picture below is credit of Derite, Matzinger basing his theory on older German linguists is convinced that Illyrian was part of East-Alpine Block language, technically i see it he thinks it might...
  21. I see, i posted one potential Albanian, but i was...

    I see, i posted one potential Albanian, but i was on my phone, and couldn't check it clearly, though he is E-V13 BY3880, his downstream could be any other subclade.
  22. Potentially an Albanian from Ferizaj has same...

    Potentially an Albanian from Ferizaj has same subclade as well.

    https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/36078-Updated-phylogenetic-tree-of-E-V13/page3?p=557598&viewfull=1#post557598
  23. Another sample from Viminacium. Interesting...

    Another sample from Viminacium. Interesting subclade, on top sitting an Armenian and the rest all from Western Europe. But, i refrain to make conclusions from yfull solely.

    Another potential...
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    Something about Southern Albania

    Something about Southern Albania
  25. I don't think Cetina explains, i rather think...

    I don't think Cetina explains, i rather think there is also the chance he is either a Vatin influence on Proto-Illyrians, Koszider hoard influence or general LBA Urnfield.

    The Urnfield Culture did...
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