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    as you say.............Daunians, Messapians...

    as you say.............Daunians, Messapians belong to the same North Balkan group Iapodes ...............which is nowhere near Montenegro and the Illyrian proprie dicti .................

    So you...
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    messapic had already changed after 500 years in...

    messapic had already changed after 500 years in Italy ................the Kalabri/calabri at the time lived near modern Taranto ( SW of )

    they had already changed their alphabet

    Messapic...
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    whatever link you have with messapic and Albania...

    whatever link you have with messapic and Albania is due to the Messapic trading with Albania , the people on the Albanian coast be it epirotes or whoever learnt some messapic words........it is not...
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    Poll: @ Salento I match the Wels sample I also...

    @ Salento

    I match the Wels sample


    I also match the same in YHRD which I did 2 years ago

    Can you check the numbers for this sample ?
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    from the same book you used the upload Apple...

    from the same book you used the upload
    Apple Indo-Europeans divide, presumably on an east/west basis into Northwest
    Indo-Europeans (pre Italics, Celts, and Phrygians] and Northern Indo-Europeans...
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    Messapic language is Daunian language it came via...

    Messapic language is Daunian language it came via Iapodes in the area where Croatia meets Slovenia .............it mixed with Local Italian language once arriving in Italy............its most...
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    link this paper ...... Messapic language at...

    link this paper ......

    Messapic language at 300BC was not a pure North-Balkan language anymore, it had already been mixed with the local italic people they absorbed after 600 years .........the...
  8. my father numbers Distance to: Ponsan_K12b...

    my father numbers

    Distance to: Ponsan_K12b
    2.04137209 KF1800761_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    2.17639610 KF2700960_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    2.19034244 ALP250_Veneto...
  9. Distance to: Torziok12b 1.63711731 ALP022_Veneto...

    Distance to: Torziok12b
    1.63711731 ALP022_Veneto
    2.08712721 ALP235_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
    2.80196360 ALP249_Veneto
    2.82104591 KF2700960_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia...
  10. so are you saying that Albanians migrated from...

    so are you saying that Albanians migrated from the Northern Balkans area ?
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    Are not the Kurds associated with the ancient...

    Are not the Kurds associated with the ancient Medes ?
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    Interesting ...........................your T1a1...

    Interesting ...........................your T1a1 ydna .................i am T1a2 ydna

    you have Scandinavian roots ...................I have 50% matching with Swedish, Danish and Finnish people in...
  13. As per Periplus documentations circa 400BC ...

    As per Periplus documentations circa 400BC

    https://i.postimg.cc/Pf6HSfHq/echen.png
  14. Herodian (2nd century A.D.) mentions that Rhizon...

    Herodian (2nd century A.D.) mentions that Rhizon takes its name from Rizon, son of Cadmus and brother of Illyrius.[2] The earliest mention of Rhizon dates back to the 4th century BCE in the Periplus...
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    A legend which he records (Illyr. 1) makes...

    A legend which he records (Illyr. 1) makes Celtus, Illyrius, and Gala, to have been three brothers, the sons of the Cyclops Polyphemus, and is grounded probably on the intermixture of Celtic tribes...
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    study these Illyrian names from Noricum Austria ...

    study these Illyrian names from Noricum Austria ...............there are 5 pages....but I give you one

    https://i.postimg.cc/VLrxW3Vv/illyri-pers-vol-1.png
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    The first decent map of I have seen in regards to...

    The first decent map of I have seen in regards to Greek and Phoenician med. areas
  18. Histri border was their Peninsula and west to...

    Histri border was their Peninsula and west to modern Oderzo in Veneto ( basically Friuli was Histrian except for some Liburnian towns ) ....Histrian bordered the Venetics , who over time pushed...
  19. I have only seen it mixed and noted as this in...

    I have only seen it mixed and noted as this in Pannonia ( hungaria ) ...usually also mixed with Celts
  20. Thracian Odryssians are the purest Thracians...

    Thracian Odryssians are the purest Thracians ...............the only Thracians that went with Alexander on his Persian crusade

    Dacians, Getae and Moesians are lesser Thracian group
  21. the Iadasinoi are pure Liburnians ............the...

    the Iadasinoi are pure Liburnians ............the term Iadasinoi is a Greek term from Liburnians living in Zadar ( Iader )

    In antiquity, Iadera and Iader, the much older roots of the settlement's...
  22. Well ...people never believed , when I stated 3...

    Well ...people never believed , when I stated 3 years ago that Illyrians pushed south into montenegro and beyond because the Celts where pushing the Illyrians from circa 1000BC in east Austria
  23. Liburni, an Illyrian people on the NE coast of...

    Liburni, an Illyrian people on the NE coast of the Adriatic, once dominated a large part of the coast of *Illyricum (Strabo 6. 2. 4) but by the Roman period they were confined to the sector between...
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    Sticky: I married them to get my results

    I married them to get my results
  25. Are you saying Liburnians are not Illyrians ?

    Are you saying Liburnians are not Illyrians ?
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