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Every Albanian i have seen has Peloponesse shown in 23andme, it's not the case, probably in the future when they update their algorithm it will sort it out.

What fis do you belong to?

Middle Bronze Age is not Illyrian period at all. Illyrians started to form in Late Bronze Age, and by Early Iron Age they were already formed as an ethnic group.

So, we have no Y-DNA yet from...

I don't think Maghrebis look like Ethiopians at all.

David Attenbourough is confirmed E1b1b, he is very likely E-V13.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01490/chimp_1490686c.jpg

This makes sense, Log02 and Log04 were probably Proto-Greek while those Cycladic were what Herodotus labelled the Pre-Greek people as Pelasgian.

Iberomaurusians are quite on the right on the PCA, they probably represent Morocco_HG.

Well, his username is quite sexist/trollish btw. It means: "I want vagina" in Albanian. Though i doubt this guy is even Albanian to begin with.

I think the Illyrians from Albania will be similar to Maniots/Tsakonians probably, or Central-Southern Italians, autosomally i mean.

No, on contrary you are curious and that's a very valuable attribute to have.

E-V13 is strong among Albanians from all regions, it's the most consistent Y-DNA among Albanian speaking people.

I didn't see any stark evidence that it's sister branch of SSA. It could be sister branch of Basal Eurasian instead according to the Dzudzuana paper, but still very distinct, just as the Mechtoid...

According to a peer reviewed scientific paper from 2019, Albanians in Macedonia have ~35% of E-V13, somewhere ~18% R1b and ~13.6% J2b2.

This paper is more reliable. :)

I think the Urnfield theory makes sense.

It looks like there were two waves of Italic people into Italian peninsula, one before the Late Bronze Age and the second one with the Late Bronze Age...

Well, we already have a name for that deeply splitting lineages, or pre-bottleneck and we call it Ancentral North African, ANA.

Aspurg, i don't agree with you at that point.

The distinctive Glasinac symbol was the chariot with the water birds, very unique during Late Bronze Age - Early Iron Age among Urnfield-related...

It looks like Ancient Egypt was already divided between Nordicists and Afrocentrists.

Because according to the paper Ancient Egyptians so far are a mix of Celtic-R1b and Bantuid E1b. :laughing:

I think that the Illyrians or atleast the Urnfield group who heavily influenced Illyrians came from Middle Danube Urnfield group while the Thracians received their influence from Gava related...

I think that the group who burned Mycenae were more related to later classical Illyrians, since burials in Argolis and Mycenae contain cremation on tumuli which has a parallel in Western Balkans....

I always thought that E-V13 were IE-zed somewhere in Balkans mingling with R1b-Z2103 but those were G2a, and apparently their males were being disfavored or put in some hardships for leaving an...

Also, it looks like Kapitan Andreevo E-V13 very likely descends from Gava.

Those weird ritual pits from Kapitan Andreevo can be find a parallel in Gava.

Also, i doubt Cetina is the source of...

How do you explain the Glasinac chariot with water birds then, well late until Late Iron Age.

The elites in Glasinac were being cremated on a tumuli.

Why do u have to write such long explanations, i don't get it.

I don't think you are an Albanian but i am also sure you are not Pecheneg as well, some assimilated Vlach maybe.

As for E-V13,...

If Southern Illyrians were J2b2 dominated then you have to explain the relatively low J2b2 among Southern Albanians. The truth is we don't know for sure yet, it's weird since archeologically i have...

There was a climate change during Late Bronze Age in Central Europe, a rainfall which caused great famine and probably triggering these migrations toward Balkans, they were looking for a new home.

We already have like 10 or 14 samples from Vinca (they are all G2a in majority with some H2 here and there) and none of them is E-V13 or E-L618, most of E-L618 are heavily related to maritime...

If they were the pioneers of cremation, then the absence of E-V13 among ancient samples would make sense.