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  1. If is it easy can you send the link of the...

    If is it easy can you send the link of the study?? I remember they used the empuries samples to calculate the native admixture
  2. Anyone who is familiar with Byzantine history...

    Anyone who is familiar with Byzantine history knows that after the Romans recaptured Greece they pretty much killed or expelled all the slavs they found with maybe few surviving pockets remaining...
  3. I have to agree with the other users here the...

    I have to agree with the other users here the authors seem to have done a poor job modelling modern balkan people.Why would they ever use ancient Greeks as a proxy to calculate the pre slavic...
  4. So how much slavic ancestry do you believe Greeks...

    So how much slavic ancestry do you believe Greeks and Albanians have if we assume that modern South slavs have on average 40-55% ancestry associated with slavs?
  5. I also don't give much trust to these...

    I also don't give much trust to these calculators. I think in this case the best way to see if northeastern Italians have slavic genes is to see if they carry haplogroups associated with slavs
  6. from what I have seen north Eastern Italians do...

    from what I have seen north Eastern Italians do score some slavic in calculators but no more than 10-15%. In the rest of Italy is pretty much non existent
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    thanks archetype I appreciate it I'm gonna run...

    thanks archetype I appreciate it I'm gonna run some models when I have more spare time
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    it would be nice if you could run Greek Albanian...

    it would be nice if you could run Greek Albanian and other balkan populations averages using the k13 ancient
  9. Sometimes ydna isn't totally accurate for example...

    Sometimes ydna isn't totally accurate for example Armenians have 20% r1b but autosomally they have only 5% steppe
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    you can also use the scythian samples, the getae,...

    you can also use the scythian samples, the getae, the cimmerian, the szolad and HRV samples to measure the iron age balkan ancestry
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    Ancient Greek and Paleobalkan

    Ancient Greek and Paleobalkan
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    What are you trying to say? Do you disagree that ...

    What are you trying to say? Do you disagree that the peloponnese is one of the places with the least slavic influence in the balkans and so it should theoretically have the most native balkan genes
  13. If Albos are half slavic half thraco-illyrian...

    If Albos are half slavic half thraco-illyrian hybrid as you claim then South Slavs are on average 80% slavic which is definitely not the case.
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    There is Albanian influence in the Peloponnese...

    There is Albanian influence in the Peloponnese it's just not so large as many Albanian nationalists claim to be
  15. Guys relax we can't be sure about anything yet...

    Guys relax we can't be sure about anything yet because we barely have any ancient Greek genomes and the ones we had were heterogeneous from being extremely south European like clustering with...
  16. [QUOTE=Fustan;629918]There's no reason for me to...

    [QUOTE=Fustan;629918]There's no reason for me to be biased against Greeks, I think they are a great people. I just do not like how they downplay the mixing with neighbors, the Arvanite movement to...
  17. I agree with you that we should have more ancient...

    I agree with you that we should have more ancient dna from Greece but if a paper came out and supported the idea of continuity between modern and ancients you would be the first one to disregard the...
  18. it's difficult for me to imagine that there was...

    it's difficult for me to imagine that there was not any EV-13 in ancient Greece. There were several cases even of Athenian upper class citizens marrying Thracians or having Thracians origin for...
  19. he supports the idea that the majority of EV 13...

    he supports the idea that the majority of EV 13 found in Greeks is of balkan and especially Albanian/illyrian origins
  20. yeah but they should have used the new medieval...

    yeah but they should have used the new medieval slavic samples to calculate the slavic admixture, and to calculate the native percentage in Bulgarians they should have used thracians or dacians...
  21. I'm aware of the existence of this sample it is...

    I'm aware of the existence of this sample it is just i can't wait for upcoming samples from southeast Europe which are rumored to be heterogenous, some having more steppe and others are going to be...
  22. Thanks for the replie. Do you have any...

    Thanks for the replie. Do you have any information on how Iron and roman empire age Balkanites and Greeks are going to turn out??
  23. So EV13 did spread in Balkans during the LBA/EIA....

    So EV13 did spread in Balkans during the LBA/EIA. I'm starting to believe that in Greece EV13 was one of the main haplogroups carried by Dorians
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    If Iron age Greeks turn out log_2 like I think...

    If Iron age Greeks turn out log_2 like I think your close affinity with illyrians is going to be replaced by these samples. Also I believe that when we get ancient Macedonians and epirotans mainland...
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    But it should be next to impossible for...

    But it should be next to impossible for thessalian epirotans and Macedonian Greeks during the iron age to be log_2 like and southern Greeks to be cypriot - anatolian like. Modern mainland Greeks even...
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