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  1. Right, I see it now.

    Right, I see it now.
  2. However, Daunians are not Italic, and it is...

    However, Daunians are not Italic, and it is called Italic C. Maybe southern Italics?
  3. Not at the moment, but I am keeping my eye open...

    Not at the moment, but I am keeping my eye open for when they come about. Same for the Daunian samples, I am interested to see how they would project on the PCA.
  4. Compare the graphic above, to the one posted by...

    Compare the graphic above, to the one posted by Pax:

    https://i.imgur.com/mQwkAlS.jpg
  5. https://i.imgur.com/68hqRhy.png Olalde et al....

    https://i.imgur.com/68hqRhy.png

    Olalde et al. 2021 actually gives us some insight into this, it shows the PCA with Italy Rome Republic (i.e. Latins & Etruscans) as well as Aegean IA & BA. Modern...
  6. They do overlap, but during the IA Iberians we're...

    They do overlap, but during the IA Iberians we're similar to Basque and pulled towards the position of Etruscans because of outside sources during the Roman Empire, and medieval period. Italians Are...
  7. Once the samples come out for that paper, I think...

    Once the samples come out for that paper, I think they will overlap with C5, the east med samples from Antonio et al. 2019.
  8. I think it is likely these Anatolian_Chl+Iran_N...

    I think it is likely these Anatolian_Chl+Iran_N people, who I would suggest constitute the actual source of this ancestry. I think "East med" is the "near east" cluster of the Balkans paper. It had...
  9. I imagine like the Balkan_IA, you could say the...

    I imagine like the Balkan_IA, you could say the Italian version would be C.Italian_IA + Aegean_IA.
  10. I the think the fact that Antonio et al. 2019,...

    I the think the fact that Antonio et al. 2019, and Olalde et al. 2021 supports the idea of local-population resurgence, maintain this scenario's viability. So basically it is like a 2 to 1 in terms...
  11. Seems impossible to tell based on how this paper...

    Seems impossible to tell based on how this paper models the samples in the graphics. I don't see any Natufian components used which would verify if it is Anatolian or Levantine. Levant_BA is...
  12. It seems the study does acknowledge the arrival...

    It seems the study does acknowledge the arrival Iran-related ancestry in Sicily and Sardinia. But say it didn't happen in Italy. I am not sure how they can say that with confidence, maybe that was...
  13. In my speculation, I think we will see that...

    In my speculation,

    I think we will see that the Southern Italian BA will have individuals who show a pull towards Anatolian_ChL/BA, prior to the arrival of the Greeks of Magna Grecia.

    The Magna...
  14. I think we all expected Italics, even those that...

    I think we all expected Italics, even those that went to the south to be similar to Etruscans. But what about these IA Greeks?


    They land in the range of modern Southern Italy.


    But also,...
  15. This town was sacked many times, imho, much of...

    This town was sacked many times, imho, much of the genetic continuity of modern Southern Italians in this region begins in the 1200s AD. Like in the case of my father's town, which was re-settled in...
  16. This paper pretty much says the Eastern...

    This paper pretty much says the Eastern Mediterranean in general augmented the whole of Southeastern Europe. So what are they saying that modern Balkan people too are derived from Imperial age...
  17. So basically, Antonio et al. 2019 supports the...

    So basically,

    Antonio et al. 2019 supports the idea of local-population resurgence in Rome

    Olalde et al. 2021 supports the idea of local-population resurgence in the Balkans, and cites the...
  18. We need to see what Southern Italian Greeks were...

    We need to see what Southern Italian Greeks were like during the IA.
  19. With a paper from the Max Planck Institute, I...

    With a paper from the Max Planck Institute, I have to defer to their expertise. Thus I should have more respect towards the position that the Imperial era had a larger impact on the Modern Italians....
  20. I wish I had more upvotes to give!

    I wish I had more upvotes to give!
  21. Distance to: Jovialis 3.64458502...

    Distance to:
    Jovialis


    3.64458502
    C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_729-942CE:TAQ003


    4.09070899
    S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_650-763CE:VEN006
  22. Here are the samples with the archeological IDs...

    Here are the samples with the archeological IDs for Dodecad K12b format:


    C.Italy_Etruscan:CampigliadeiFoci(Siena_Tuscany)_780-540BCE:CAM001,1.38,0.19,1.2,0,47.62,24.58,0,0,6.88,0,17.87,0.27...
  23. https://i.imgur.com/ea7lsb4.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/ea7lsb4.jpg
  24. Yes! just in time for the weekend! VEN is...

    Yes! just in time for the weekend!

    VEN is Venosa in Basilicata.
  25. Very intriguing, do you know if the VEN samples...

    Very intriguing, do you know if the VEN samples are from the Iron Age?
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