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  1. The j1 ratio is still too high, compare it to...

    The j1 ratio is still too high, compare it to people around them with high r1b and low j1. Why would ratio mean nothing and how does data being from 2016 mean it is innacurate? That my friend, is...
  2. Poll: 150 years ago Dutch were amongst the shortest,...

    150 years ago Dutch were amongst the shortest, now they are the tallest

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/08/scientists-try-to-answer-why-dutch-people-are-so-tall
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  3. Poll: Yeah I think genetics play a part but not as much...

    Yeah I think genetics play a part but not as much as people think like the last 100 years have proved, they seem to play a minor role. The right food at the right time seems to allow someone to reach...
  4. Mental issues as in I want to find out why so...

    Mental issues as in I want to find out why so many middle eastern looking people in South Europe, ok. Have you ever been to Bulgaria before? Go visit sometime

    Are you another one of those deluded...
  5. Poll: I can't agree with this, most of the men on my...

    I can't agree with this, most of the men on my dads side are bald/balding. I am sure both x and y play a role, that's why a lot of brothers can have different hairlines
  6. Have none of these been found in middle east...

    Have none of these been found in middle east though, like at all? I don't believe that

    Also j2b m205 definitely seems from osman conquest, it seems to have broken into cyprus, serbia (in...
  7. Poll: Height is mostly determined by nutrition as a...

    Height is mostly determined by nutrition as a child

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/07/26/health/human-height-changes-century/index.html

    Parents give their kids vitamins and...
  8. Ok. J2a-m67 is also found in Arab lands so...

    Ok.

    J2a-m67 is also found in Arab lands so maybe some of that would have been spread with Islamic conquests too

    These as well:

    J2a1-F3133 is found in Anatolia, Syria, Iran, Central Asia and...
  9. Are you serious right now? Read the quote, it...

    Are you serious right now? Read the quote, it sounds like mongols had a problem with Islam for a long time, someone doesn't just say what the leader of the mongols did out of the blue randomly one...
  10. Wrong! Real genuine Mongols hated islam/arabs,...

    Wrong!

    Real genuine Mongols hated islam/arabs, don't know which ones you speak of

    "From the head of the Mongol army, anxious to devastate the perfidious nation of the Saracens, with the...
  11. Only very few, an extensive test needs to be done...

    Only very few, an extensive test needs to be done in that region to find out more. I didn't say it was just "rape", they had to stay there after killing the men and have several women slaves to...
  12. That doesn't mean it wasn't arabs. They invented...

    That doesn't mean it wasn't arabs. They invented Islam in 600 or so but arabs would have obviously been spread out in other areas peacefully prior to that too before religion just like other people...
  13. You clearly haven't read up on Islamic conquest...

    You clearly haven't read up on Islamic conquest like every reliable historian has, you say osman was mongol when I gave you proof that credible historians disagree, they were not Kayi tribe. Since...
  14. Why do you keep making things up, there is zero...

    Why do you keep making things up, there is zero proof that osman was turkic.

    "According to Ottoman tradition, Osman I, founder of Ottoman Empire, was descended from the Kayı tribe.[1][2][3][4]...
  15. https://forebears.io/surnames/othman...

    https://forebears.io/surnames/othman
    https://forebears.io/surnames/uthman
    https://forebears.io/surnames/osman

    There is zero proof that ottoman were turkic, the leader was definitely of arab...
  16. Why would they only spread their genes in the...

    Why would they only spread their genes in the East and Spain/portugal but not in the middle East? I cannot take that logic seriously when you look at history, especially considering that middle east...
  17. Can someone explain to me why Bosnia has almost...

    Can someone explain to me why Bosnia has almost 3x i2a over r1a and why bulgaria has equal of both.
  18. Ok but according to you arabs (who are mostly j1...

    Ok but according to you arabs (who are mostly j1 today) did not expand their genetics beyond their land? Really? They somehow managed to change religion and most notable and extreme, the language of...
  19. This is off topic again but ottoman (osman,...

    This is off topic again but ottoman (osman, uthman etc) were mostly arabs in terms of their father lines, j1 become a big group in middle East from prior arab expansion before ottoman era. Initially...
  20. Imo J1 originated in Yemen, no one would move...

    Imo J1 originated in Yemen, no one would move there to harsh conditions nearer the equator from north. Some of these yemen arabs would have moved north out of general curiosity and settled elsewhere...
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    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC379148/
  22. Yes and they did expand their genes, anyone who...

    Yes and they did expand their genes, anyone who says otherwise is in denial

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC379148/

    What do you think of j1 in dagestan, there is an area with 90%...
  23. Is there somewhere we can continue this...

    Is there somewhere we can continue this discussion properly on this board?
  24. Well, like I said it would be easier to...

    Well, like I said it would be easier to understand if we had charts of all the major r1a sub clades. The slavs definitely invaded Europe and evidence suggests they were mainly i2a. Have any i2a been...
  25. I can't see it. I don't understand how south...

    I can't see it. I don't understand how south slavs have so much more i2a than r1a yet albanians have roughly equal, some places have higher r1a than i2a whereas some places like kosova have more i2a...
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