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    Listen Albanian ..Abraham,Slavs came from Ukraine...

    Listen Albanian ..Abraham,Slavs came from Ukraine as tribes not isolates, pushed by population movements.
    So their profile must be the same as the profile of people of central west Ukraine. The...
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    Yes it was debunked from the Albanian scientist...

    Yes it was debunked from the Albanian scientist ''MArko'' with PhDs in forum diatribes from UC Tropuja.
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    Why dont you point me out to the scientific...

    Why dont you point me out to the scientific papers that claim that :
    a) that I2 and R1a found in Greece are of those clades, and how you compute them to be..40
    %, when the entire R1a and I2 in...
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    I would say more likely it is a certainty. I2...

    I would say more likely it is a certainty.
    I2 is 30 000 year old, and it was the dominant yDNa linage in the Balkans and all the way to the Ukrainian steppes.
    E-v13 for comparison is half of that...
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    What's ''slavic y-dna'' Tells us so we can...

    What's ''slavic y-dna''
    Tells us so we can laugh all together.
    Then tell us what is greek y dna so we can laugh even harder with the necessary complications of it.
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    Yes you will find plenty of j2 and e-v13 in...

    Yes you will find plenty of j2 and e-v13 in Russians and Poles like in Bulgarians and Skopians
    What no?
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    that's true.present day Albania and Kosovo...

    that's true.present day Albania and Kosovo couldn't have had more than 100 000 people circa 1500s after the ottoman conquest and the blood path that followed.
    100 000 being very very generous as...
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    they are as all lower Balkan Slavs are. A mixture...

    they are as all lower Balkan Slavs are. A mixture of Slavic and pre-Slavic populations in the analogies you would expect them. Mainly of local admixture with a minority % of genetic admixture from...
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    Never underestimate the impact of the barbarism...

    Never underestimate the impact of the barbarism of Ottomans. You should read some records about how they treated Venician prisoners after the fall of Cypriot and Cretan cities.
    Here is a taste from...
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    You are an amusing fella with your out of the...

    You are an amusing fella with your out of the world theories, but you should complain to your great great grandfathers about it, that converted to Turks' religion and culture at the first sight of...
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    >Sami bey Frashëri >Most important scholar ...

    >Sami bey Frashëri
    >Most important scholar

    If we go by what travelers with bias reported then we wouldn't hear the end of it.
    But we can use as reference the highly biased (against Greek and...
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    Yes it would make you a partly descendant of...

    Yes it would make you a partly descendant of Muslims of Peloponnese, who were a small percentage but they still were at one point tens of thousands in a general population of half a million.
    When in...
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    Karaiskakis was in the service of Ali pasha. So...

    Karaiskakis was in the service of Ali pasha. So were many many others, Panourgias, Palaskas, Diakos, Androutsos, etc Almost all of the Greek revolutionary leaders were ARmatoloi(armed groups payed...
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    Suliotes were -allied- tributaries in exchange...

    Suliotes were -allied- tributaries in exchange for peace to Ali Pasha at one point.
    But eliminating them was always in the back of his mind as they were a small independent army in his back yard.
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    Dear friend Gianni, that's a nice and comforting ...

    Dear friend Gianni, that's a nice and comforting story you are developing there, but i would suggest to see the cold reality as it is and not buy into (your own)fantasy.
    Arvanites no longer speak...
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    Theodore Kolokotronis's( leader of the greek...

    Theodore Kolokotronis's( leader of the greek revolution) Father wiped out tens of thousand of Turkoalbanians in Peloponnese.
    His son though spared a lot of them, whom he allowed to leave with their...
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    He is correct in what he wrote. Arvanites truly...

    He is correct in what he wrote. Arvanites truly hated Albanians(albanian meant a synonim for turkoalbanians) and never missed a chance to show it in the last 200 years.
    As he mentioned it was a...
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    None knows their origins, but what we do know...

    None knows their origins, but what we do know from their legends is that they were refugees fleeing a slaughter from Turks and Cam Muslims after the failure of a revolt against the Turks in...
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    Far away would be the distance between a Serb and...

    Far away would be the distance between a Serb and an Irish.
    Those result are pretty closed to the one you would get from Albanians of same regions.
    On Average Albanians would get lower Baltic and...
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    You are speaking on a national level. I was...

    You are speaking on a national level. I was talking about regional populations. Kossovo Albanians compared with Kossovo Serbs(although that is impossible now), Fyrom slavs with the Albanian...
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    Of course they did. Most Greek revolutionary...

    Of course they did. Most Greek revolutionary leaders were Armatoloi in the service of the Albanian controlled pashaliks.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armatoloi


    So what? it lasted for 300 years...
  22. LAdy those ARE facts. And aint playing your...

    LAdy those ARE facts.
    And aint playing your silly forum games. Grow up.
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    One theory , is that they were descendants of...

    One theory , is that they were descendants of Byzantine Empire's retired soldier who once they reached a certain (older)age, they were given land and kept as reserve troops known as apomaxoi
    The...
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    GedMatch reliability shouldn't be taken for...

    GedMatch reliability shouldn't be taken for granted.

    How exactly do they match for the ancestral groups?
    Do the have adequate samples(for matching ethnic groups
    in the oracles)?
    How exactly do...
  25. What does a company does: a) Takes a sample of...

    What does a company does:
    a) Takes a sample of your Saliva
    b) Extracts DNA from it
    c) Take a dozen os so small Samples from that DNA, and compares them to reference populations.
    d) Since due to...
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