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    Only Tsakonian can be considered an isolated...

    Only Tsakonian can be considered an isolated dialect, and some even classify it as an independent Hellenic language since it has diverged considerably from the other dialects. On the other hand the...
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    The designation "Ancient Greek" is very broad and...

    The designation "Ancient Greek" is very broad and can include anything from Mycenaean Greek, to Archaic Greek (including Epic/Homeric Greek), to Classical Greek, to Hellenistic/Koine Greek, and even...
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    Thanks. Yeah, i agree with your and their input...

    Thanks. Yeah, i agree with your and their input as well. As for your question of steppe average ancestry on the Mycenaean samples, it would be around 10%, and the Armenoi sample would be between...
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    @Angela, what do you think of the Armenoi sample...

    @Angela, what do you think of the Armenoi sample i wrote of earlier? Has this been discussed in the thread?
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    I liked your post because i have said this in the...

    I liked your post because i have said this in the past as well and i agree.
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    The modern region of Albania had indigenous Greek...

    The modern region of Albania had indigenous Greek tribes in the south and coastal Greek colonies in the center and north during antiquity. Even today there is a Greek ethnic minority inhabiting the...
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    You write, "I expressed my opinion that just like...

    You write, "I expressed my opinion that just like everyone else in the Balkans, their audna got Northern shifted. DONE!".
    And it has been explained to you multiple times that their atDNA didn't got...
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    Greeks could have been shifted north due to...

    Greeks could have been shifted north due to additional LBA migrations as well, which could have also been part of a more conservative proto-Greek cluster that hadn't mixed as much with pre-Greek...
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    I wouldn't like to turn this into a...

    I wouldn't like to turn this into a Greek-Albanian contest, because quite honestly the thread would end up in the bin. And no, this is not a Greek thread and indeed it concerns all Europeans, that's...
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    You write, "Correct, by the end of the 19th...

    You write, "Correct, by the end of the 19th century the Arvanite communities of Peloponnese were concentrated in Argolis, Corinth, Messenia, Elis, and Eastern Lakonia, and sporadically found...
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    It's mostly as you write. Here is also a more...

    It's mostly as you write. Here is also a more specified report based on 119 samples from a paper, https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1872497312001810#tbl0005. I was personally born...
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    Barduniotes make their appearance with the...

    Barduniotes make their appearance with the arrival of the Turks in the region, namely around 1715. They were placed at the borders of Mani to essentially guard the pass, because Mani was autonomous...
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    No arguing here, but i would still like to see...

    No arguing here, but i would still like to see more studies on them. They seem to make a very widespread cluster, and the Deep Mani sub-cluster which is also the most conservative with almost no...
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    Barduniotes weren't considered as Maniots, they...

    Barduniotes weren't considered as Maniots, they weren't even Christian. They also came rather late in the region, namely around 1715. No reason to expand on unrelated material.
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    Regarding J2, yeah, it's also certain that some...

    Regarding J2, yeah, it's also certain that some J2 belonging to Phoenicians for example, certainly also carried Levantine ancestry when they colonized south of Cyprus. Some, not much i gather, also...
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    Regarding J1a, there was also a southwestern...

    Regarding J1a, there was also a southwestern Anatolian EBA sample that had it from the study of this thread. Namely one from Isparta, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5565772/table/T1/....
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    Arvanites were mostly concentrated in Corinth and...

    Arvanites were mostly concentrated in Corinth and Argolis, and they also don't cluster close to Maniots or Tsakones. If anything they cluster close to all other Peloponnesians. And you seem to be...
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    My interpretation isn't based on that sentence...

    My interpretation isn't based on that sentence though, but the PCA attached to the supplementary figure. Which by the way isn't that different from the case of Peloponnese which also seems to...
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    I did agree with Angela on this, on post #1697....

    I did agree with Angela on this, on post #1697. But i still think that later Hellenistic colonies such as Decapolis might have something to show.

    As for Cypriots, indeed it is understandable that...
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    I am really intrigued as well. And it gets even...

    I am really intrigued as well. And it gets even deeper since even Maniots and Tsakones differ between them, as is also evident in Figure 1b. Take note that the East and West Tayetos samples that are...
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    Which written history are you referring to if i...

    Which written history are you referring to if i may ask, because Philistines are Biblical characters, namely they weren't recorded in ancient Greek sources but rather Hebrew. Nonetheless, archaeology...
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    By the way, i would like to emphasize something i...

    By the way, i would like to emphasize something i didn't mention. The Maniots and Tsakones, despite the fact that they have the lowest Slavic admixture, they differ from all other Peloponnesians and...
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    I think it's possible. The MTA website has the...

    I think it's possible. The MTA website has the following statement, "WE SUPPORT AUTOSOMAL FILES FROM ANCESTRY, 23ANDME, MYHERITAGE, FTDNA, DANTE LABS, LIVINGDNA AND MORE".
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    Yeah, i am in general looking for the cheapest...

    Yeah, i am in general looking for the cheapest option available from the main companies. I can then easily (and more cheaply) move downstream from there. Here is a PDF that was recently shared by a...
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    I am also interested in the genetic profile of...

    I am also interested in the genetic profile of Decapolis, but unfortunately i don't think any sample has been tested yet. Hopefully sometime soon we will see some in a general Levantine study.

    I...
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