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  1. :laughing::laughing::laughing:

    :laughing::laughing::laughing:
  2. G25 Italian averages aren't completely accurate.

    G25 Italian averages aren't completely accurate.
  3. Agreed with you. If I'm not mistaken, Tuscany is,...

    Agreed with you. If I'm not mistaken, Tuscany is, perhaps along with the Republic of Venice, the region with the largest number of documents from the Middle Ages onward, and perhaps one of the most...
  4. Yes indeed, Fiesole which is on a hill above...

    Yes indeed, Fiesole which is on a hill above Florence was Etruscan.

    In the historical center of Florence they found archaeological remains, including tombs, from the Villanovan era, and then...
  5. I think because Ischia/Pithekoussai is considered...

    I think because Ischia/Pithekoussai is considered the first Greek colony in order of time of "Magna Graecia", and the Greeks who arrived there around 780-770 a.C. is thought were from Eretria and...
  6. They tested only Petrarca's mtDNa, and it was J2...

    They tested only Petrarca's mtDNa, and it was J2 (likely they didn't tested a possible subclade). His Y-DNA hasn't been tested yet.

    Btw the remains found in Arquà, Padua, have been assumed to...
  7. Again. Imperial samples unlilkely give an...

    Again. Imperial samples unlilkely give an accurate picture. It's a matter of common sense. If you don't understand that, there's nothing I can do about it.
  8. It suggests that compared to Iron Age Etruscans,...

    It suggests that compared to Iron Age Etruscans, modern Tuscans have most likely a shift toward Iron Age Anatolia/Iron Age Aegean, not toward the Levant. This potentially involves northern Italians,...
  9. https://i.imgur.com/FnvjQos.png

    https://i.imgur.com/FnvjQos.png
  10. Just to say, the Romans of the imperial era are 6...

    Just to say, the Romans of the imperial era are 6 individuals from southernmost Tuscany to the border with Umbria and Latium, and from northern Latium, when the Tuscan population today lives 2/3...
  11. I sometimes get the feeling it's more of an...

    I sometimes get the feeling it's more of an obsession than a simple admiration that of the Americans, and even the British, for the Greek and Roman worlds.
  12. If the Y-Full data are minimally correct, formed...

    If the Y-Full data are minimally correct, formed 4400 ybp TMRCA 4400 ybp, Z36 predates Iron Age ethnicities by a long way, and could potentially be found among both Latins, Celts, and even others. I...
  13. In my opinion this tool based on K36 created by...

    In my opinion this tool based on K36 created by Tolan does not show results in as much detail. The Spanish Baleares and Portuguese get these results because they are barely closer to Italy than other...
  14. The Etruscans were most likely one of the most...

    The Etruscans were most likely one of the most numerous populations of pre-Roman Italy. I'll try to catch up on some references over the next few days.
  15. Interestingly enough that Tuscans still get 71,...

    Interestingly enough that Tuscans still get 71, which is a value that puts them among the closest populations, although the peak with 76 is among Swiss-Italians and an Iberian sample.
  16. In my opinion for the reasons I explained in post...

    In my opinion for the reasons I explained in post #38.
  17. That's what we've been talking about for days. :)...

    That's what we've been talking about for days. :)

    The number one suspects are imperial age migrations, but there are still few samples to get an accurate picture.
  18. I'm not checking because I'm messed up but the...

    I'm not checking because I'm messed up but the main cluster whom Etruscan samples belong is C7, not C6. It's the the others, later samples that are no more "Etruscan", that end up in cluster C6.
    ...
  19. I do not have elements to support it for this...

    I do not have elements to support it for this specific case (ETR001) but in Etruria both during the Iron Age and after there were undoubtedly also people from southern Italy, not always there is the...
  20. Great job, Jovialis. The fact that Latium_MA is...

    Great job, Jovialis. The fact that Latium_MA is further north than Tuscan_MA clearly implies that more samples are needed.
  21. Slavs in Italy?

    Slavs in Italy?
  22. Similar distance to Italians that many Spanish...

    Similar distance to Italians that many Spanish have to Basques? What do you think Jovialis?

    https://i.imgur.com/EtE6bP6.png

    https://i.imgur.com/XsWe1y5.png
  23. I thnk ETR001 was already published in a 2020...

    I thnk ETR001 was already published in a 2020 study, she was a woman. A big problem is that the imperial age samples are all from very peripheral areas of Tuscany, on the border with Umbria or Lazio....
  24. You are too smart not to know that the samples...

    You are too smart not to know that the samples are too few yet to draw conclusions.





    Ariel is an Hebrew/Jewish name.
  25. I have been part of genealogical research groups...

    I have been part of genealogical research groups for years, and studied these topics in college. There is no such assumption in studies that the surnames Tuscany shares with northern Italy are due to...
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