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  1. Let‘s speculate just for fun here. Do you expect...

    Let‘s speculate just for fun here. Do you expect that more predictions for pale skin will show up in possible Iron or BA Italy studies? Actually, the phenotype prediction for BA or CA Italy is not...
  2. We don‘t have a single ancient DNA from...

    We don‘t have a single ancient DNA from MESOPOTAMIA, yet and Africa is still extremely undersampled. Concerning Europe, we are able to connect more and more the dots. However, we still need DNA from...
  3. Does anybody know how much Steppe present-day...

    Does anybody know how much Steppe present-day Serbs score? The BA ones scored a similar level of Steppe admixture as modern Northern Italians
  4. You have a point here. I used sloppy, loose...

    You have a point here. I used sloppy, loose wording since to me Sardinia is Italy. And when I said blond hair wasn‘t uncommon in BA Italy, I meant that is not impossible for ancient Italians to be...
  5. From the study concerning admixture. BA...

    From the study concerning admixture.



    BA Serbians had a similar skin complexion as modern Spaniards.Ola'. And the frequency of blue eyes among BA Serbians is similar to the frequency of blue...
  6. Thanks for another interesting paper kingjohn....

    Thanks for another interesting paper kingjohn. Keep bringing them on. Besides, cool that they've detected J2b in BA Serbia. However, still, no E-V13 found. It's becoming a running gag.
  7. Bear in mind, that nobody wants to be invaded and...

    Bear in mind, that nobody wants to be invaded and conquered. There were 3 Jewish- Roman wars where the Jews were brutally crushed. That illustrates that not only a few zealots wanted to be freed...
  8. I didn‘t misinterpret the authors' claims but...

    I didn‘t misinterpret the authors' claims but quoted their conclusion straight from the paper. Plus, I didn't mention pale skin at all. So, where did I claim, that CA or BA Italians were...
  9. Well, Romans thought if you give Non-Romans the...

    Well, Romans thought if you give Non-Romans the Roman citizenship that somehow makes them loyal to Rome. I think in good times that would be the case. But what if times get harsh? Would these ...
  10. No need to be rude and what I wrote wasn‘t...

    No need to be rude and what I wrote wasn‘t elementary school vision. Historians and researchers still argue about what lead to the total collapse of the Western Roman Empire. I correctly pointed out,...
  11. The authors conclusions and interpreation of the...

    The authors conclusions and interpreation of the data:
  12. I quickly skimmed through this study. For those...

    I quickly skimmed through this study. For those who are interested in the phenotype of Copper and Bronze Age Italians. The authors conclude that CA and BA North and Central Italians were...
  13. Thanks kingjohn for linking this interesting ...

    Thanks kingjohn for linking this interesting paper. I'll take my time to read it in depth. Anyway, it's really weird that after all these papers about Ancient Greece, Rome, BA Europe, etc. the...
  14. Blaming the fall of the Western Roman Empire...

    Blaming the fall of the Western Roman Empire entirely to the Germanic tribes isn‘t completely correct. Some historians say that moral decay, the male Roman population becoming lazy and diseases...
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    I wonder whether this Child from 78,000 years...

    I wonder whether this Child from 78,000 years ago, is closely related or similar to the OoA population or even BE. It would be exciting to see his hp and autosomal DNA.
  16. Gaska, can you please show me the 3 half black...

    Gaska, can you please show me the 3 half black Mycenaeans in that study? Or was this a satire attempt ?
  17. You've obviously missed some comments here about...

    You've obviously missed some comments here about half black Mycenaeans, and Aegeans being predicted as dark because of SSA influence. I personally don’t take offense at the detected African mtdna....
  18. May I ask you this, did you use HIrisPlex S for...

    May I ask you this, did you use HIrisPlex S for your eye and skin color prediction? And overall how accurate was it? Anyway, I personally do care a lot about accuracy including phenotype...
  19. You can’t take this first case of an Aegean...

    You can’t take this first case of an Aegean individual with an African mtDNA, thus a clear outlier, to make a sweeping statement about the Mycenaeans or Minoans having SSA admixture and were dark...
  20. I'll try to contact the authors and hope they'll...

    I'll try to contact the authors and hope they'll reply. But how likely is it, that professional genetics/researchers make a mistake in the determination of ancestral versus derived snps or in the...
  21. So, you think bottom line, that the prediction...

    So, you think bottom line, that the prediction is correct, and that OCA2 is the reason why these Aegeans are even much darker than many modern Middle Easterners. Correct?
  22. And these Arab Bedouins despite tan and SSA...

    And these Arab Bedouins despite tan and SSA admixture, are not really very dark to black.


    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/85/13/56/851356c30de5f58dc9001b3ef12a81a0.png
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  23. You have a valid point here. When you read very...

    You have a valid point here. When you read very dark to black you think automatically of this complexion.
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  24. Interesting information that seems to support...

    Interesting information that seems to support what I was assuming. But that's not what this genetic study concludes. On the contrary, these BA Greeks are predicted as darker than modern Europeans...
  25. What you say seems plausible. However, we have ...

    What you say seems plausible. However, we have Egyptian mummies who had definitely a light skin tone. Also, Egyptians depicted beige or whitish looking Libyans. And Ancient Greeks didn't exaggerate...
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