from the same book you used the upload
Apple Indo-Europeans divide, presumably on an east/west basis into Northwest
Indo-Europeans (pre Italics, Celts, and Phrygians] and Northern Indo-Europeans...
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from the same book you used the upload
Apple Indo-Europeans divide, presumably on an east/west basis into Northwest
Indo-Europeans (pre Italics, Celts, and Phrygians] and Northern Indo-Europeans...
Messapic language is Daunian language it came via Iapodes in the area where Croatia meets Slovenia .............it mixed with Local Italian language once arriving in Italy............its most...
link this paper ......
Messapic language at 300BC was not a pure North-Balkan language anymore, it had already been mixed with the local italic people they absorbed after 600 years .........the...
my father numbers
Distance to: Ponsan_K12b
2.04137209 KF1800761_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
2.17639610 KF2700960_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
2.19034244 ALP250_Veneto...
Distance to: Torziok12b
1.63711731 ALP022_Veneto
2.08712721 ALP235_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia
2.80196360 ALP249_Veneto
2.82104591 KF2700960_Friuli-Venezia-Giulia...
so are you saying that Albanians migrated from the Northern Balkans area ?
Are not the Kurds associated with the ancient Medes ?
Interesting ...........................your T1a1 ydna .................i am T1a2 ydna
you have Scandinavian roots ...................I have 50% matching with Swedish, Danish and Finnish people in...
As per Periplus documentations circa 400BC
https://i.postimg.cc/Pf6HSfHq/echen.png
Herodian (2nd century A.D.) mentions that Rhizon takes its name from Rizon, son of Cadmus and brother of Illyrius.[2] The earliest mention of Rhizon dates back to the 4th century BCE in the Periplus...
A legend which he records (Illyr. 1) makes Celtus, Illyrius, and Gala, to have been three brothers, the sons of the Cyclops Polyphemus, and is grounded probably on the intermixture of Celtic tribes...
study these Illyrian names from Noricum Austria ...............there are 5 pages....but I give you one
https://i.postimg.cc/VLrxW3Vv/illyri-pers-vol-1.png
The first decent map of I have seen in regards to Greek and Phoenician med. areas
Histri border was their Peninsula and west to modern Oderzo in Veneto ( basically Friuli was Histrian except for some Liburnian towns ) ....Histrian bordered the Venetics , who over time pushed...
I have only seen it mixed and noted as this in Pannonia ( hungaria ) ...usually also mixed with Celts
Thracian Odryssians are the purest Thracians ...............the only Thracians that went with Alexander on his Persian crusade
Dacians, Getae and Moesians are lesser Thracian group
the Iadasinoi are pure Liburnians ............the term Iadasinoi is a Greek term from Liburnians living in Zadar ( Iader )
In antiquity, Iadera and Iader, the much older roots of the settlement's...
Well ...people never believed , when I stated 3 years ago that Illyrians pushed south into montenegro and beyond because the Celts where pushing the Illyrians from circa 1000BC in east Austria
Liburni, an Illyrian people on the NE coast of the Adriatic, once dominated a large part of the coast of *Illyricum (Strabo 6. 2. 4) but by the Roman period they were confined to the sector between...
I married them to get my results
Are you saying Liburnians are not Illyrians ?
Distance to: Torziok12b
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9.05105519 VK286_M_Denmark_Viking_cov-52%
9.17625196 VK90_F_Denmark_Viking_cov-21%
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3.48921195 I24639_M_Croatia_EIA_cov-68%...
Ulrich Blarer b about 1190 and d 1242 Sankt Gallen Switzerland T-CTS933
in any Ftdna project ................my closest , oldest sample seems to be , the above
but the one that sits in my...
Liburnians controlled much of Dalmatia in late bronze-age to early iron-age ...............we only see Dalmatia come up very strong, basically after the decline of the Liburnians ( around 733BC when...