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  1. Y-DNA Stilfs 37 samples R1b 35%, G/H (xDE,...

    Y-DNA Stilfs 37 samples
    R1b 35%,
    G/H (xDE, JR) 32%,
    E* (xE3a) 14%,
    T (xL, N3, O2b, P) 14%,
    R1a1 3%,
  2. or ...

    or

    https://trentinogenealogy.com/2019/02/ethnicity-identity-trentino-tyrolean-italian/
  3. which slavic is in Bergamo ? this is a paper...

    which slavic is in Bergamo ?

    this is a paper showing east-tyrol has some slavic

    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0041885

    Pasture Names with Romance and...
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    have 14332 twice 52. Veliki Vanik Croatia...

    have 14332 twice

    52. Veliki Vanik Croatia Bronze Age
    1600 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.16 - I4332b
    Top 94 % match vs all users
  5. which Illyrian sample is this.......waht is the...

    which Illyrian sample is this.......waht is the sample ID ?


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    For what it is worth
    to compare with myself...............I...
  6. the slovenian-greek mix could be from Mycenaean...

    the slovenian-greek mix could be from Mycenaean mixing with istrian-illyrians

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castellieri_culture
  7. in regards to this ................I like to...

    in regards to this ................I like to mention what I was told about it 5 plus years ago

    the tested "illyrians" in that chart above had also O_Italians which is .....Other Italians ...
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    if we add the ancient croatian paper samples from...

    if we add the ancient croatian paper samples from august........

    we report new whole-genome data for 28 individuals dated to between ~ 4700 BCE–400 CE from two sites in present-day eastern...
  9. different roman historian mentions different...

    different roman historian mentions different illyrian tribes than other historians

    appian

    https://i.postimg.cc/QMPV4CkX/appian.png

    interesting is that the tribe below sits near one of these...
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    this 38.9 balkan for Veneto looks like it...

    this 38.9 balkan for Veneto looks like it confirms the Histrian ownership of anicent Veneto-Friuli lands from Oderzo ( veneto ) to Istria
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    I do not know why I get I3313 sample 3 times in...

    I do not know why I get I3313 sample 3 times in MTA

    7. Illyrian / Dalmatian
    1200 BC - Genetic Distance: 8.808 - I3313
    Top 98 % match vs all users
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    I3313 is noted Dalmatian ..............but to...

    I3313 is noted Dalmatian ..............but to others

    Etruscan-Illyrian_1200BCE_HRV_IA_I3313 - This is pre-Roman Italian - more like North Italian?
    Liburnian from the...
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    This is certainly one of those Illyrian peoples...

    This is certainly one of those Illyrian peoples most scarcely referred to. Straboidentifies them as Pannonian (Illyrian) people, along with Breuci, Deuri, Deretini, Dindari, Ditiones, Ditiones,...
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    https://www.academia.edu/35896111/Illyria_and_Its_...

    https://www.academia.edu/35896111/Illyria_and_Its_Place_in_the_Ancient_Mediterranean_World


    Iapodes

    The Iapodic territory extended along the Adriatic coastline and covered almost all of...
  15. do you have any ancient bosnian samples in your...

    do you have any ancient bosnian samples in your new balkan IA samples ?
  16. If you want to claim the Dardanians are from...

    If you want to claim the Dardanians are from illyrian stock ............which seems 100% wrong for myself .

    The only common association of the ancient Dardanians with other tribes is with the...
  17. https://www.academia.edu/35896111/Illyria_and_Its_...

    https://www.academia.edu/35896111/Illyria_and_Its_Place_in_the_Ancient_Mediterranean_World

    Illyria and Its Place in the Ancient Mediterranean World

    Where there is no illusion there is...
  18. I always knew it ...............just a...

    I always knew it ...............just a confirmation from my Albanian work collegue


    regards




    BTW, the oldest illyrian object found was from Slovenia
  19. both samples from Thessaly Greece...

    both samples from Thessaly Greece ..............are you claiming that Albanians are Thessalians?

    you do know the only true ancient albanians came from Dardania which is modern Kosovo, which speak...
  20. To show you that some people want to fit Albania...

    To show you that some people want to fit Albania in the caucasus with Albania in europe
  21. That sample comes from Greek Province of...

    That sample comes from Greek Province of Thessally , near the aegean sea
  22. Sticky: latest MTA I removed all AD samples...

    latest MTA

    I removed all AD samples ......except SZ1 which should be bronze age period ie 1000BC as per DNA papers on the sample


    1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro
    930 BC - Genetic Distance:...
  23. the term Illyrii proprii/proprie dicti. was only...

    the term Illyrii proprii/proprie dicti. was only done by Pliny the Elder in AD times to describe people south of southern Dalmatians ..............no one else used this term
    "Illyrii Proprie Dicti"...
  24. Ha thanks, pretty easy to do actually. Just go on...

    Ha thanks, pretty easy to do actually. Just go on vahaduo g25 views, select europe 2 from the dropdown menu. Then you add individual samples, unclick them on the legend (so the dots dissapear) and...
  25. Apollonia, was founded in 588 BC. Greek ...

    Apollonia, was founded in 588 BC. Greek colonists from the city of Corinth and Corfu. It was originally known as Girakia in honor of the colonist leader Giraks. The name was later changed...
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