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  1. Whatever they were, these L283 have continuously...

    Whatever they were, these L283 have continuously lived in the Western Balkans over the last 3-4k years. Which brings us to the topic of this useless thread from this Parapolitikos guy, the same guy...
  2. Hence why I am now even more convinced R1b and...

    Hence why I am now even more convinced R1b and J2b2 had to be these Indo Europeans we are talking about.
  3. Oh right. Sorry. Confused your first sentence...

    Oh right. Sorry. Confused your first sentence thinking you were talking about L283. But yes the other points regarding L283 still stand and you might wanna address with yourself. It would take me...
  4. Welp. Its not present in Wester Europe... But it...

    Welp. Its not present in Wester Europe... But it seems to originate in Sardiana according to you. Isn't that a head scratcher? Where is the East-West divide in Europe, aka Central Europe and where is...
  5. Hmm, "not quite? But close enough" ? That's not...

    Hmm, "not quite? But close enough" ? That's not really scientific bro. What is a typical Western European line according to you? And when did it enter Europe?



    My hypothesis is quite...
  6. Indo-European phylogenetics with R/David Goldstein/Indo-European Linguistics V8 I1

    I believe this article from September of last year has not been mentioned in the forum. My apologies if it has, I have not frequented much lately.

    This fantastic article uses Statistics/R/ML and...
  7. I personally hope any rivalry between the project...

    I personally hope any rivalry between the project is productive, and arguments are done with actions. Both projects have and have had immense value for Albanian genetics. As I recall Albanians came...
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh9XEf2aonU

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh9XEf2aonU
  9. Ancient: Szolad consisted with other calculators....

    Ancient: Szolad consisted with other calculators.

    https://imgur.com/a/KoNjyIKhttps://imgur.com/a/KoNjyIKhttps://i.imgur.com/4tZwhn7.png

    Modern: Albanian North

    https://i.imgur.com/l20W9Pv.png...
  10. You are right, if it wasn't so pathetic it would...

    You are right, if it wasn't so pathetic it would be funny.

    Check this, he calls the Mod by name in the same post he mentions "arese impaled Albanians".
    Despite reporting two of his posts, after...
  11. Post 34 Results: Credit to Jovialis ...

    Post 34 Results: Credit to Jovialis

    https://i.imgur.com/UcXJIZr.png

    https://i.imgur.com/VG60P66.png

    https://i.imgur.com/7440CME.png

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  12. Post 24 Results: Credit to Jovialis ...

    Post 24 Results: Credit to Jovialis

    https://i.imgur.com/5LrRPRI.png

    https://i.imgur.com/bB091go.png

    https://i.imgur.com/d0Y99v8.png

    https://i.imgur.com/3y3oVWp.png
  13. Did you take your pills mate? Stop vomiting all...

    Did you take your pills mate?
    Stop vomiting all over the forum.
    And for the last time, keep your hatred towards Albanians in your tummy. And Albanians out of your filthy mouth.
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    Nice application of the model you put together...

    Nice application of the model you put together Jovialis.

    Could you post more Mycenean - BA/IA Bulgarian comparisons.

    My intuition keeps nudging me towards the North Hypothesis for Myceneans....
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    You are correct. The three ORC's should be the...

    You are correct. The three ORC's should be the Nuragic samples, if I am not mistaken again.

    Furthermore they added these:
    R474, Etruscan (700-600BCE): J-CTS6190

    R116, Roman (0-200CE): J-Z631...
  16. Makes sense. Thanks :good_job: By the way,...

    Makes sense. Thanks :good_job:

    By the way, what is the earliest archeological, textual or other, mention of Etruscans? I would assume such a presumably non IE population ought to extend at least...
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    Lost my British Isles component... Sardinia was...

    Lost my British Isles component...
    Sardinia was added. My guess is to push me autosomaly further west, and/or include some Paleo component that differentiates me from modern day Balkans. It makes...
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    AFAIK the ones being updated are from ancient...

    AFAIK the ones being updated are from ancient samples. ORC007 is the Mokrin sample IIRC. The rest should be Nuragic, Etruscan and Roman. Also the Viking I mentioned in this thread:



    Also I...
  19. Hey Dushman, I will share some graphs with my PCA...

    Hey Dushman, I will share some graphs with my PCA later.

    But based on the great model Jovialis put together here is my guess:

    First we have to create clusters based on the information we have....
  20. I personally am inclined to believe scenario A/...

    I personally am inclined to believe scenario A/ Northern Model. Mainly due to my subscription to the Kurgan Hypothesis and my belief that proto-IE/IE peoples didn't take Anatolian route.

    Will be...
  21. You are probably right, I did not mean to imply...

    You are probably right, I did not mean to imply anything since I am not well read.

    Just based on the PCA, it seems on the West-East cline C6, IA Balkans, Myceneans sit comfortably between...
  22. Quite intersting work Jovialis. What do you...

    Quite intersting work Jovialis.

    What do you think of BA Balkans and Etruscans overlaping, and both being more western than present day C6 cluster?

    It seems that C6 falls halfway between BA...
  23. Very well done Jovialis. Was waiting for...

    Very well done Jovialis. Was waiting for something like this.

    Here are my results:

    https://i.imgur.com/ObbZRrH.png

    https://i.imgur.com/B2ePs7R.png

    https://i.imgur.com/Simh0hJ.png
  24. From the supplement: ...

    From the supplement:

    https://static-content.springer.com/esm/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41586-020-2688-8/MediaObjects/41586_2020_2688_MOESM1_ESM.pdf

    Ă–land, Sweden
    (Prepared by Helene Wilhelmson,...
  25. It is a bit sad we do not have SNPs. The rough...

    It is a bit sad we do not have SNPs. The rough breakdown is still useful, but rather not informative and relevant to the time period.
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