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    What if there were groups that spoke more than...

    What if there were groups that spoke more than just Daco-Thracian?
  2. Did someone check if Etruscan G2a subclades and...

    Did someone check if Etruscan G2a subclades and the recent samples from Croatian Encrusted Pottery Culture G2a subclades have relations?
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    But then again, i don't think a Central Balkans...

    But then again, i don't think a Central Balkans Albanoid language was vastly different from Thracian/Illyrian. It must have shared an Early/Middle Bronze Age common ancestor with either both or one...
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    There was two waves of inter-related cultures...

    There was two waves of inter-related cultures which spread deeper in Balkans, the second one is the Gava/Channeled Ware Culture.
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    No, i am not, was just wondering whether we are...

    No, i am not, was just wondering whether we are looking at the same data: https://www.yfull.com/samples-from-paper/540/?page=2

    From page 2 onwards we have J1, J2, and Q, R which probably is mostly...
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    Hmm, what do you mean by no J2a, change the page...

    Hmm, what do you mean by no J2a, change the page number, there is a lot of J2a and R1b-Z2103 as well.
  7. I agree with you, one of the main points which...

    I agree with you, one of the main points which interests me from the paper is the Bronze Age to Iron Age expansion of E-V13. A lot of things discussed were spamming the thread. Ironically, the same...
  8. What are the autosomal affinities of this sample?...

    What are the autosomal affinities of this sample?

    VEN008Venosa (Potenza, Basilicata)660-766 CES.Italy_Venosa H6c E1b1b1a1b1L618
  9. I just realized that J2b2-L283 among Etruscans...

    I just realized that J2b2-L283 among Etruscans was only 1 sample, the one it got initially revealed probably. So, they were heavily R1b with G2a (I assume a scenario were the G2a imposed their...
  10. Too much R1b in a supposedly non IE speaking...

    Too much R1b in a supposedly non IE speaking people. Something doesn't sum up.
  11. Why Celts/Germanics when their influence was not...

    Why Celts/Germanics when their influence was not nearly as much as Slavic migrations. As i said it can reach up to ~30% with averaged probably being somewhere closer to ~25%. It is what it is....
  12. I think approximately ~20-25% Slavic input among...

    I think approximately ~20-25% Slavic input among Albanians and Northern Greeks make sense, it's more reasonable, in some cases up to ~30%. Otherwise the ancient Balkan samples clustering closer with...
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    MIDDLE BRONZE AGE EQUALS TUMULUS CULTURE? - NEW...

    MIDDLE BRONZE AGE EQUALS TUMULUS CULTURE? - NEW MIDDLE BRONZE AGE BURIALS FROM SOUTHERN BAVARIA
    Abstract author(s): Massy, Ken (LMU Munich)
    Southern Bavaria was one of the main areas to define the...
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    Riverman, according to Harry Mountain...

    Riverman, according to Harry Mountain Dacian-Getae were influenced by HugelgraberKultur/Tumulus-Urnfield Culture during 15-12 century B.C. You still didn't solve the whole puzzle. In fact, you are...
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    You should read more about the Koszider hoards,...

    You should read more about the Koszider hoards, because that's the context of influence on formation of Illyrians. Also:
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    You see, you are mixing stuff a lot,Illyrian...

    You see, you are mixing stuff a lot,Illyrian tumuli was a continuation from Early Bronze Age tumulis and are not strictly related to the Tumulus Culture/Hugelgraberkultur which appeared initially in...
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    Nope, E-V13 spread point was not Western Balkan...

    Nope, E-V13 spread point was not Western Balkan at all, just check the tree and it's quite clear that it's Southern Central Europe instead, the buffer zone between the Alps and Carpathian Mountains....
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    Not particularly hitting at E-V13 Z5018 though,...

    Not particularly hitting at E-V13 Z5018 though, it might be some non Z5017/Z5018. Why not some earlier offshots before Gava was created, heading south, not at the scale of latter Gava-Belegis II.
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    The Gava-Belegi II looks like a clear and...

    The Gava-Belegi II looks like a clear and consistent candidate for E-V13 spread to me. That's right. But i also think Vatin Culture/related had E-V13 as well. Let's wait for further aDNA.


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    But, FGC33621 diversity is far more in...

    But, FGC33621 diversity is far more in Central-Western Europe than in Balkans or Eastern Balkans. That contradicts Daco-Thracian. Don't get me wrong, i agree on most cases. But the mosaique is not...
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    I already explained before that the E-V13 Z5018...

    I already explained before that the E-V13 Z5018 will be explained not by Thracians but by other tribes which were already in Central Balkans prior to the transition of LBA/EIA, they probably formed...
  22. I see, makes sense.

    I see, makes sense.
  23. And where is that sample Slovenian_IA? I haven't...

    And where is that sample Slovenian_IA? I haven't seen any Slovenian_IA sample before?
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    Strictly speaking this thread is more about Late...

    Strictly speaking this thread is more about Late Bronze Age to Early Iron Age transition.

    So don't bring up Albanians or Slavs. There is enough threads about that topic.

    In several instances we...
  25. For me one good point extracted from the paper,...

    For me one good point extracted from the paper, and the most important one was the connection between E-V13 and cremation burials during Late Bronze Age and Early Iron Age transition.

    A good...
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