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    I was trying to play around with autosomal models...

    I was trying to play around with autosomal models but left it, it's like minecraft, you can create your own miniscule world and get carried away. They should be evaluated by multi-faceted contexts...
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    There is no reason to assume these were Thracian...

    There is no reason to assume these were Thracian or North Alpine or whatever, Himera was founded partially by Chalcidic Greeks, that's right near Thracians and Psenicevo IA E-V13. Why do we need to...
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    Just read that Himera was partially found from...

    Just read that Himera was partially found from settlers from Chalcidic Greece, that's in ancient Macedonia? Would make sense. One thing which is suprising me, could the "legendary" Pelasgians after...
  4. Maybe first occurrence of E-V13 in ancient Greek...

    Maybe first occurrence of E-V13 in ancient Greek site?


    Sicily_Himera_480BCE_lc I17872 E1b1b1a1b1 E-V13 Excluded sister/downstream haplogroups:...
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    Bruzmi posted 3 E-V13 samples from ancient Greek...

    Bruzmi posted 3 E-V13 samples from ancient Greek city of Himera.

    Sicily_Himera_480BCE_lc I17872 E1b1b1a1b1 E-V13 Excluded sister/downstream haplogroups:...
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    Derite, somehow from recent reveals i am...

    Derite, somehow from recent reveals i am skeptical there will be E-V13 in Iron Age Albania. But if Iron Age yields, it would be great news for Albanians in general.
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    Would be good to know whom you are referring and...

    Would be good to know whom you are referring and for what because it's confusing.

    Clearly, entertain has completely forgotten fhe majority of Balkanic_IA autosomal of E-V13. Also, it's...
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    Don't know where to start lol, the cherrypicking...

    Don't know where to start lol, the cherrypicking you are doing is just unreal and so cheap-ass, and you keep quoting us with a straight face. North-West Anatolia was already Indo-European to begin...
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    We still didn't get the full picture of aDNA...

    We still didn't get the full picture of aDNA Balkans, the Southern Arch was just a portion of it, let's wait for more samples, then we can probably make a better deduction. We still have a tremendous...
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    Split it further, instead of just Croat source...

    Split it further, instead of just Croat source for Romanized Illyrian put an additional more Southern variant, the Middle Age Albanian sample, that should normalize the things further for Albanians...
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    I see no reason why Greeks should not be included...

    I see no reason why Greeks should not be included in Balkans, they are Southern Balkans.
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    I13834 shows greater affinity to MKD_BA, but...

    I13834 shows greater affinity to MKD_BA, but another MA sample shows as well, some less Slavic influenced Albanians from PostMDV and modern samples have some affinity toward MKD_BA as well, i mean...
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    Perhaps, it's wiser to further split the...

    Perhaps, it's wiser to further split the Dardano-Thracian, into something more like Central Balkans and Eastern Balkans.

    I think from some Croatian G25 results i have seen, they require more...
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    Scroll down to the bottom, it's already...

    Scroll down to the bottom, it's already translated into English, and as far as the writing goes, it's quite good. It gives a very good picture. Aspar is right into that there is no clear evidence...
  15. I don't think from Southern arch paper the...

    I don't think from Southern arch paper the samples from modern South-West/Lake Ohrid of modern North Macedonia was part of Ancient Macedonia, especially not in Iron Age. Perhaps we can argue about...
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    This abstract from Romanian archaeologist Valeriu...

    This abstract from Romanian archaeologist Valeriu Leahu is worth reading:

    Scroll down to the English version:...
  17. That's what the Urnfield paper 2022 concludes,...

    That's what the Urnfield paper 2022 concludes, it's their theory/hypothesis.



    As you can see from their quote above, it's interesting how that potentially the earliest E-V13 we will have to...
  18. Why bother yourself with so many analysis and not...

    Why bother yourself with so many analysis and not mention Thracian people as one of the major carriers of this lineage.
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    Let's see where these archaeological records...

    Let's see where these archaeological records stands with aDNA, it requires samples from much more than single sites of course and both Iron Age and Early Christianity period.
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    Your Turkish coffee cup && palm reading abilities...

    Your Turkish coffee cup && palm reading abilities do not qualify enough for population genomics. Find another hobby.
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    2nd quote in English should be up to date, the...

    2nd quote in English should be up to date, the first in Albanian is from long time ago. And, i agree that he would try to minimize to appease a more simpler image. But you still never know. Perhaps...
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    He is highly intellectual, according to him E-V13...

    He is highly intellectual, according to him E-V13 arose in percentage when the Berisha clan decided to have 16 children, and they spread all over Europe.

    We are asking too much of him, he'll stick...
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    I wouldn't take this map too literally. Based on...

    I wouldn't take this map too literally. Based on some writings the Channeled-Ware also known as Kanellure and otherwise in English Grooved appeared mostly in Devoll/Lofkend areas. Which is basically...
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    One other option, to explain the presence of...

    One other option, to explain the presence of E-V13 in Cyprus and South Italy is that E-V13 was one of the major lineages of Byzantine Empire, obviously mediated through Thracians. One South Italian...
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    In relation to this paper, this makes sense. ...

    In relation to this paper, this makes sense.

    https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1007%2Fs10963-021-09155-7/MediaObjects/10963_2021_9155_Fig9b_HTML.png?as=webp
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