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  1. No doubt, I2683 is the one that overlaps with...

    No doubt, I2683 is the one that overlaps with modern SItaly1.

    https://i.imgur.com/SaOtiQo.png

    https://i.imgur.com/qZewmh7.png
  2. @Ygorcs I checked the supplement of Raveane et...

    @Ygorcs

    I checked the supplement of Raveane et al 2019, they only use I2683_Anatolia_BA for ABA. Thus it actually has the least amount of Levantine admixture among them. Moreover, If G25 is...
  3. @Ygorcs, I am not familar with that labeling...

    @Ygorcs,

    I am not familar with that labeling for the Ashkelon samples,

    Below are the labels I took from the study, when creating coordinates for Dodecad K12b, on Vahaduo. From what I can...
  4. Hmm, though according to this admixture chart,...

    Hmm, though according to this admixture chart, from the Post-Roman era Egyptian paper from 2017, it models Anatolian_N separately from from Levant_N. Moreover, Natufian is modeled with have minor...
  5. I'm not sure, but medieval Sicily had a lot of...

    I'm not sure, but medieval Sicily had a lot of resettlement, I believe a lot via north Italy. In addition to other influences as well.
  6. @Ygorcs, If Levant_N was such a good...

    @Ygorcs,

    If Levant_N was such a good component, than why was it not used in Raveane et al 2019? They had it their disposal, but Anatolian_BA was a better fit.

    https://i.imgur.com/X5FQhf9.jpg
    ...
  7. I recommend letting it go, because it is not a...

    I recommend letting it go, because it is not a real component.
  8. For the last time, there is no such thing as...

    For the last time, there is no such thing as "Imperial Roman-like" ancestry. It is a false construct. No where in the study that the samples are from say that it is. It is something made up by laymen...
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  10. I think R1 is representative of Italics, while...

    I think R1 is representative of Italics, while R850 is more representative of a pre-Italic population, with R437 being intermediary. Of course there was admixture from both Etruscans, who are...
  11. ^^personally, I think the calculator runs I...

    ^^personally, I think the calculator runs I posted back thread justify my position. The samples from the Imperial era, that I, Salento, and other Italians match with coincide with modern Italians,...
  12. Again, there is no such thing as "Imperial Roman"...

    Again, there is no such thing as "Imperial Roman" ancestry, it makes no sense. It was different groups that lived in the same period of time. There is no proof that they mixed together, to change the...
  13. @Riverman, That looks wrong, even Ygorcs's list,...

    @Riverman, That looks wrong, even Ygorcs's list, using the same tool as you demonstrates that. Again, "Imperial Rome" is not a component, also it makes absolutely no sense to model samples from...
  14. https://i.imgur.com/I6ZWkwE.png Take a look at...

    https://i.imgur.com/I6ZWkwE.png

    Take a look at Britain in late antiquity, are you suggesting that this article was accurately portraying on the genetics of Britain?
  15. "Imperial Rome" is a nonsense cohort to lump...

    "Imperial Rome" is a nonsense cohort to lump together, because some are clearly immigrants, and some were native Italians. Also, I just demonstrated, that Italians match with the native ones, which I...
  16. When comparing them to Iron Age samples, they are...

    When comparing them to Iron Age samples, they are all fairly close to R437:

    Distance to: R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche
    6.94338534 R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata
    14.21247339 ...
  17. ^^All of the Imperial samples I get have a close...

    ^^All of the Imperial samples I get have a close affinity with Italian populations according to Dodecad K12b:

    Distance to: R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche
    3.57584531 Italy_Abruzzo
    ...
  18. Here is my Dodecad K12b results, top 25: ...

    Here is my Dodecad K12b results, top 25:



    3.02061252
    R973_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti


    3.28542235
    R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche
  19. @Ygorcs Dodecad K7b gives me R836 as my...

    @Ygorcs

    Dodecad K7b gives me R836 as my closest match, which is Italian, in your list. Which is very close to the two-way admixture I get with R1 and R850, when using just the Iron Age samples.
    ...
  20. R437 can in fact be modeled similar to a southern...

    R437 can in fact be modeled similar to a southern Italian as well, and close to medieval samples:

    https://i.imgur.com/v0hnph0.png

    https://i.imgur.com/r5urnqH.png
  21. You are wrong about much, and I don't even know...

    You are wrong about much, and I don't even know where you are pulling these claims from.

    Medieval Italians plot right on top of Southern Italians, but there have been Italians that fall into their...
  22. The yellow colored cohort represents the range of...

    The yellow colored cohort represents the range of both Sicily and Calabria:

    https://i.imgur.com/wEB9YWY.png
  23. Also, I don't know if that is just an average of...

    Also, I don't know if that is just an average of all of them, but at least one of them, is a bit distant from the others. One of which plots right on top of Southern Italians, from Raveane et al...
  24. I believe it was Dodecad K7b for that one. ...

    I believe it was Dodecad K7b for that one.

    https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/39706-Ancient-Rome-Test-(Various-Calculators)
  25. Well, at least 6% in southwestern Anatolia, in...

    Well, at least 6% in southwestern Anatolia, in the late bronze age.
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