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  1. Gedmatch results ...

    Gedmatch results

    https://i.imgur.com/LvgQ1pV.jpg

    PCA maps

    https://i.imgur.com/QIlwY69.jpg


    MyHeritage + LivingDna Ethnicity Estimate maps
  2. An analysis to play and have fun, okay. To be...

    An analysis to play and have fun, okay. To be able to do what you would like to do, we would need such a deep knowledge of the Etruscan and Italic world, that obviously we both don't have.

    I...
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    Yes, Greek colonists from Phocaea (Ionia) founded...

    Yes, Greek colonists from Phocaea (Ionia) founded Massalia (modern-day Marseille, in France), Emporion and Rhoda (modern-day Empúries and Roses, in Catalonia, Spain) and Alalia in Corsica. They...
  4. Torzio, what does the earliest mention of...

    Torzio, what does the earliest mention of Illyrian mean? What kind of mention of Illyrian in 1600 BC in Noricum?





    I think this is a different place, not the one where the I3313 sample was...
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    I have nothing to say personally to anyone and I...

    I have nothing to say personally to anyone and I agree with you that we should get back to the subject.
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    At least I have a sense of humor about myself....

    At least I have a sense of humor about myself. You've changed your message, admitting in this way you were wrong.
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    I think Argumentum ad hominem could be avoided,...

    I think Argumentum ad hominem could be avoided, Angela.

    Of course, there is nothing humble in my opinion. I was just sarcastic.
  8. I figured it wasn't your fault. MTA is literally...

    I figured it wasn't your fault. MTA is literally inventing labels.
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    K13 is clearly more reliable and stable than K15....

    K13 is clearly more reliable and stable than K15.

    Ancient Greek samples (Mycenaean) were uploaded to Gedmatch a long time ago and their results have been published several times.

    Why should you...
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    This comparison doesn't make so much sense....

    This comparison doesn't make so much sense. You're comparing the results of the samples in an amateur old tool (K12b) with the study that has analized and released these samples.
  11. There is no evidence that I3313, a Bronze Age...

    There is no evidence that I3313, a Bronze Age sample dated 1500-900 BCE, is Illyrian, that is an Iron age ethnos.


    All these samples, I4331, I4332, I3499, should be renamed as what they are:...
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    Central Italian in K12b is not an academic...

    Central Italian in K12b is not an academic sample. All the averages on K12b labelled as _D are averages based on results collected by Diekenes himself through his own blog. _D means Dodecad of...
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    I don’t want to be the usual buzzkill but pretty...

    I don’t want to be the usual buzzkill but pretty close is something at least under 5 as distance.
  14. The samples are still too few to draw conclusions...

    The samples are still too few to draw conclusions or even simply speculate. The difference is only due to a few WHG points. Not to mention the fact that it is completely impossible to speculate on...
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    That similarity tool is based on Eurogenes K36,...

    That similarity tool is based on Eurogenes K36, one of the less credible Gedmatch tool. Just a few points of difference in the 36 components is enough to vary the result a lot.
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    Latins were also a considerably smaller...

    Latins were also a considerably smaller population than Etruscans.







    It's Friuli only there.
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    Well, 60 means that R2 is not very similar to any...

    Well, 60 means that R2 is not very similar to any modern population. Being a Neolithic sample, there's nothing unusual about it. Can you post also the K36 results of these samples?
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    According to Maciamo's table, Emilia-Romagna has...

    According to Maciamo's table, Emilia-Romagna has not less J2 than Tuscany. Of course, an ethnicity does not depend only on uniparental markers. It's totally pointless to give uniparental markers all...
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    Yes, it's very unlikely that any part of Spain...

    Yes, it's very unlikely that any part of Spain has zero WHG. A bit of WHG might be already inside Early Neolithic (LBK_EN) and maybe there's a little mistake here in Haak's chart.
  20. Population history of southern Italy during Greek colonization

    Population history of southern Italy during Greek colonization inferred from dental remains


    First published: 21 October 2019
    https://doi.org/10.1002/ajpa.23937


    Abstract

    Objectives
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    I don't think the MTA is an accurate tool so I...

    I don't think the MTA is an accurate tool so I don't have any take.

    To draw further conclusions we need more samples, and of course also those from southern Italy between Bronze and Iron Age.
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  22. In my opinion it's very unlikely that Sea People,...

    In my opinion it's very unlikely that Sea People, whatever they were, had a so significant genetic impact that can still be found today in the contemporary population.

    When will geneticists stop...
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    Frankly, I wouldn't use MTA to draw any...

    Frankly, I wouldn't use MTA to draw any conclusions or make any assumptions.





    They had obviously different culture but this is more evident later, after the ethnogenesis of both, it's hard...
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    What does it mean? What other "Latin" samples? ...

    What does it mean? What other "Latin" samples?

    They are similar because Etruscans and Latins, as already claimed by archeology, descended by similar prehistoric and protohistoric cultures.


    In...
  25. They are using old samples from previous studies....

    They are using old samples from previous studies.


    Val Borbera (VBI), Carlantino (CAR), Erto (ERT), Illegio (ILG), Resia (RSI), Sauris (SAU), San Martino del Carso (SMC), and Clauzetto (CLZ).
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