The poster who leaked the Stanford paper said samples are from around Italy. Claiming they're all from one region comes off as dishonesty.
Using Etruscans as a proxy for pre-Greek Italians, the...
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The poster who leaked the Stanford paper said samples are from around Italy. Claiming they're all from one region comes off as dishonesty.
Using Etruscans as a proxy for pre-Greek Italians, the...
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?16487-The-Italian-Peninsula-through-Ancient-DNA/page95
See here.
Wait, the page is gone. Removed at the submitter's request.
Accroding to Anthrogenica, the Stanford Roman paper already has had samples in it uploaded to a academic database and the paper should be coming soon enough.
There's a paper studying farmers in Korea coming too.
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Courtesy of Anthrogenetica.
The paper chalked up the extra Steppe to the Ottomans.
Pontus Skoglund said his lab or connected are looking into initiating sampling of Mesopotamian ones.
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10416&d=1537069725
Here's the source.
The Harvard Lab has interest.
The Ibizan Phoenician clustered with Levantines in the other paper though.
No amount of sophistry changes that we have Classic to Hellenistic Greek samples with nowhere near the leanings towards Western to Eastern Europe modern Greeks do. That points to:
A. The Greeks in...
Even if there was some sort of ethnically opposed rulers, they would have had no solid caste and intermingled with others be they low or high.
None of the recent samples cluster outside of the Mycenean's range. With plenty of J.
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?16682-The-genomic-history-of-the-Iberian-Peninsula-over-the-past-8000-years&p=555249#post555249
Relevant:
I have included these samples in the following...
The samples don't cluster with Minoans and Neolithic samples.
Already tackled:
On Minoans and their Y-DNA:
There are two "loose" Y-DNA/Autosomal-component correlations that were relevant...
There is no evidence the Greek samples that clustered with Myceneans were low caste or otherwise not nobility.
As said on Anthrogenetica:
The first and most important anomaly is the preservative...
Also, I'll point out the paper has the first Iron Age Greek sample that happens to be autosomal. It clusters right where Myceneans are.
https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites/reich.hms.harvard.edu/files/inline-files/2019_Olalde_Science_IberiaTransect_0.pdf
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Ancient DNA research shines spotlight on Iberia
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2019-03/hms-adr031119.php
Survival of Late Pleistocene Hunter-Gatherer Ancestry in the Iberian Peninsula...
Mistakes you're making:
1. Treating Niger-Congo mixture as a proxy for indigenous African ancestry.
2. Assuming none of the mixture that isn't obviously labeled as SSA wouldn't count as mixture.
https://www.mdpi.com/2073-4425/10/3/207/htm
Abstract
: Çatalhöyük is one of the most widely recognized and extensively researched Neolithic settlements. The site has been used to discuss a...
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As you can see, there are indeed differences from modern populations in the same geographic ranges.
An upcoming paper's talk with Dr. Reich noted that Iberians do actually have a notable amount of North African/Moor/Maghreb admixture. However, the mixture would well predate the Moors.
Levantine, Anatolian, and Zagros Farmers.