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  1. Why would these be good choices for admixture? ...

    Why would these be good choices for admixture?

    There’s duplication in three out of the four samples , for one thing.
  2. Sloppy paper with sloppy conclusions. I expect as...

    Sloppy paper with sloppy conclusions. I expect as much from a Willerslev paper, but I'm surprised by Allentoft.

    His other major paper was so much better. Maybe it should have read Lazaridis et...
  3. To the best of my knowledge there is NO Slavic...

    To the best of my knowledge there is NO Slavic person in the academic Bergamo sample, nor in the Dodecad sample, and no one here ever said such a thing.
  4. Yes, well, at some point the "cultural" barrier...

    Yes, well, at some point the "cultural" barrier to dairying was crossed.

    I wonder if it was only crossed when they started admixing with women from the farming communities where it was regularly...
  5. Yes, I know exactly who you mean. He's why...

    Yes, I know exactly who you mean. He's why they're a bit more "north" than the HGDP sample.

    There are other academic sources for Northern Italy, but they were published after Dienekes stopped...
  6. North Italian is the academic HGDP sample which...

    North Italian is the academic HGDP sample which consists of a small group specifically from Bergamo.

    N Italian are volunteers to Dodecad from Northern Italy. In the early days of the project there...
  7. Given that Stuvane is at a distance of 4 from...

    Given that Stuvane is at a distance of 4 from Log2, clearly Romagna wasn't included. :)

    Nice job.

    Glad someone provided a really big study of the yDna in Albania. It certainly explains an...
  8. Well, 8 is slightly better. :) These are the...

    Well, 8 is slightly better. :)

    These are the posted results of Stuvane from the Romagna:




    Distance to:
    Dodecadk12bStuvanè
  9. Anyone know where the Campania and Calabria...

    Anyone know where the Campania and Calabria samples are from? Are they the same unscientifically chosen set by that Northern Italian Nordicist?
  10. Clemente et al, in this graphic, confuse the...

    Clemente et al, in this graphic, confuse the issue imo by not differentiating between "steppe which had a CHG" component, and the Iran Neo/CHG like component by itself, which we know moved into, say,...
  11. Well, at first glance the discussion is more...

    Well, at first glance the discussion is more nuanced than the abstract.

    Autosomally, if I remember correctly, he's less "Berber" like than the samples found in the Islamic cemetery in France.
  12. Sorry? Log 4 is there.

    Sorry? Log 4 is there.
  13. With the addition of the original "Italics", yes,...

    With the addition of the original "Italics", yes, completely agree.

    Here's a relief map of Calabria. Take a look especially at the very "toe" of the boot. That's where the last Greek speakers in...
  14. Sorry, wrong thread.

    Sorry, wrong thread.
  15. Perhaps there is a way to explain the results...

    Perhaps there is a way to explain the results supposedly showing "Slavic" in Italy (35% in Bergamo) so that everyone understands.

    The people in Europe with the highest "steppe" percentage (which...
  16. What is clear from the list is the division...

    What is clear from the list is the division between the Early Bronze Age and the Middle Bronze Age after the arrival of the steppe peoples, which was emphasized in the paper.

    Dodecad K12b already...
  17. There they go again. Do you see? Some of our...

    There they go again. Do you see? Some of our Albanian members don't understand what I'm saying, so they insult me, and then are surprised when they get an infraction.

    KEEP IT CIVIL when you...
  18. Finally, something on which we can all agree. ...

    Finally, something on which we can all agree.

    I also wouldn't be surprised if the amount of Slavic input varied within Albania, with more isolated areas having less of it.

    As for the racist...
  19. Please re-read my post on CHG/Iran Neo carefully....

    Please re-read my post on CHG/Iran Neo carefully.

    I am emphatically NOT talking about the CHG in steppe people. How could I be for God's sake? Was Oetzi steppe admixed???

    I am talking about...
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    I Will Remember You... ...

    I Will Remember You...


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    Probably not the main reason, imo, but probably...

    Probably not the main reason, imo, but probably "a" reason.
  22. You didn't say no one could know which of those...

    You didn't say no one could know which of those two Log samples were closest to the Illyrians, if either of them are... You picked a sample to be the Illyrians because they plot closest to modern...
  23. It seems our Albanian members missed all the...

    It seems our Albanian members missed all the discussions about the arrival of more CHG/Iranian Neo like Ancestry in Europe.

    The first hint of it is all the way back in the Copper Age. While...
  24. You're not making any sense. How can I possibly...

    You're not making any sense. How can I possibly know what the southern Illyrian tribes were like autosomally?

    How can you, for goodness sakes?

    WE DON'T HAVE ANY ATTESTED SAMPLES FOR ILLYRIANS...
  25. You still don't get it. I don't care whether I'm...

    You still don't get it. I don't care whether I'm close to the ancient Illyrians or not.

    In the first instance I was pointing out that Northeast Italians, NOT ME, were closer to the samples from...
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