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“Disentangling fine-scale population movements and interactions in the Italian Veneto Area: an archaeogenetic diachronic study of the inhabitants of Lamon”


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Bari ultimately from Latin Barium.
From Latin Barium, probably from Messapic; an appellative akin to *bauria, *burion (“house”),

my wife new test .................I did not bother with the ones beginning with 11.0


1. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 6.716 - SZ45 -
Top 99% match vs all users

2. Medieval Hungary /...

my first cousin. once removed from Val di Non, Trentino ........................I did not bother about getting the ones beginning with 10.0



1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 4.445...

I think there are genetic differences , especially since the ostrogoths where in the area of black sea Ukraine, Moldova ( and crimea) for over 500 years.........clearly, plenty of time to get some...

so there is no knowledge of what the dacians spoke before speaking Latin ?

There needs to be clarity on what is Goth in this thread and mytueancestry thread

There are Visigoths ( pure Goths ) .....no steppe admixture ..........and then there are Ostrogoths ( eastern...

The Daunians , messapic and others come from Iapodes ...............it is just a spit over the adriatic "pond"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liburnia#/media/File:Liburnia_5th_BC.png

The first people on lemnos where the thracian Sintian tribe from late bronze-age....there are no Lydians in lemnos and etruscans used the island of lemnos as a trading stopover circa 500BC.....thats...

my top 10 ......

1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 5.076 - R1 -
Top 99% match vs all users

2. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.332 - SZ28 - ?
Top 99% match vs all users
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only northern Illyrians tattooed , learning from their northern neighbours, the celts

interesting "messapic" daunians

https://www.academia.edu/984109/The_Tribal_Tattooing_of_Daunian_Women

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Can we get a split of only republican or earlier samples and leave roman empire samples or later for another thread/post?

I did not try to offend ...........but people migrated and sometimes they changed the culture of where they arrived and sometimes they did not..........but people think that the european system of...

no exacting ............up to the west side of the caspian sea is always referred to as European

eurasian is central asia ...kazaks people, uzbek people....basically east of the caspian sea and before china

this is mine ......sample I3133 and R1 ( proto-villanovan ) are my main match in mytrueancestry
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thanks .....i cannot tick you as it keeps saying I am a guest

I wonder if you can match this R1 ( picene) sample with I3313 ( dalmatian ) as these are my top 2 matches...with R1 a full 2 points...

I think it was 3350 in the past

i just looked at yfull...i get this below

https://i.postimg.cc/8cfXxHt7/new-z19945-match.png

so Z19945 is year 1150BC ....when it was 1460BC

the formed...

Thanks , can these figures for Illyrians have something to do with the roman forced dispersal of the the Dalmatian and Pannonian populace after the famous Illyrian revolt ?

Where will sample R1 fit.....a proto-villanovan

Moors are just Berbers that have been arabanized from after the end of the Roman and Vandal periods

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West Eurasian 100%
South European 62%
South/Central European 41%


Balkan 21%

ftdna , now have me as only a difference of 20 SNP out of 620 in relation with Mr. Brooks ( but 1 step difference )......................20, that's, what, a 1000 years ?

around in...

then it is strange that ftdna put CTS8489 and CTS8862 in the same group

Gamma-1.1-X T-CTS11984 or T-CTS8862 Unmatched

you sit with Christopher Hoff ( 1 step from myself ) and Levi Lee ...