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    The biggest turmoil in and around Carpathians...

    The biggest turmoil in and around Carpathians wasn't Noua and related steppe groups, you can do an investigation on that. It was a sub-group of Tumuli Culture coming from the Alps, a highly...
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    MBA in and around Carpathians is crucial timeline...

    MBA in and around Carpathians is crucial timeline and then a push into the Balkans from within MBA to LBA but the most coming during LBA. This is how i envision.

    I am just not sure how E-V13 came...
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    E-V13 is like the dark horse of Y-DNA's in...

    E-V13 is like the dark horse of Y-DNA's in Europe.



    They popped out of nowhere in Late Bronze Age.
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    I mentioned only the E-V13 part of the Dorians,...

    I mentioned only the E-V13 part of the Dorians, didn't specify that they were 100% E-V13. Of course they could have been a mix of various Y-DNA.

    There is J2a, R1b-Z2103, G2a and perhaps some T as...
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    I am interested in seeing more E-V13 subclades in...

    I am interested in seeing more E-V13 subclades in Peloponessus, it seems to be dominated by E-V13 S2979 subclade. One specific subclade of S2979 is present in Peloponessus and also present among...
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    While it is true that Gava, Vatin and related...

    While it is true that Gava, Vatin and related cultures might have had E-V13 in large numbers starting from Middle Bronze Age to Late Bronze it's also true they were intruders in those groups and were...
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    Hello Sophax, in order to answer your question...

    Hello Sophax, in order to answer your question you need to do some deepclade testing to know your subclade. But it seems very likely your subclade is from historical period from a man coming from...
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    lol, i admit i laughed at this. :laughing:

    lol, i admit i laughed at this. :laughing:
  9. Well, eupedia.com has a rule, lots of spammers...

    Well, eupedia.com has a rule, lots of spammers around and they don't want more people coming here and jump right into spamming with those ad/marketing posts, this has nothing to do with you.

    And...
  10. Every Albanian i have seen has Peloponesse shown...

    Every Albanian i have seen has Peloponesse shown in 23andme, it's not the case, probably in the future when they update their algorithm it will sort it out.

    What fis do you belong to?
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    Middle Bronze Age is not Illyrian period at all....

    Middle Bronze Age is not Illyrian period at all. Illyrians started to form in Late Bronze Age, and by Early Iron Age they were already formed as an ethnic group.

    So, we have no Y-DNA yet from...
  12. Thread: E1b1b is black?

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    I don't think Maghrebis look like Ethiopians at...

    I don't think Maghrebis look like Ethiopians at all.
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    David Attenbourough is confirmed E1b1b, he is...

    David Attenbourough is confirmed E1b1b, he is very likely E-V13.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01490/chimp_1490686c.jpg
  14. This makes sense, Log02 and Log04 were probably...

    This makes sense, Log02 and Log04 were probably Proto-Greek while those Cycladic were what Herodotus labelled the Pre-Greek people as Pelasgian.
  15. Iberomaurusians are quite on the right on the...

    Iberomaurusians are quite on the right on the PCA, they probably represent Morocco_HG.
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    Well, his username is quite sexist/trollish btw....

    Well, his username is quite sexist/trollish btw. It means: "I want vagina" in Albanian. Though i doubt this guy is even Albanian to begin with.
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    I think the Illyrians from Albania will be...

    I think the Illyrians from Albania will be similar to Maniots/Tsakonians probably, or Central-Southern Italians, autosomally i mean.
  18. No, on contrary you are curious and that's a very...

    No, on contrary you are curious and that's a very valuable attribute to have.

    E-V13 is strong among Albanians from all regions, it's the most consistent Y-DNA among Albanian speaking people.
  19. I didn't see any stark evidence that it's sister...

    I didn't see any stark evidence that it's sister branch of SSA. It could be sister branch of Basal Eurasian instead according to the Dzudzuana paper, but still very distinct, just as the Mechtoid...
  20. According to a peer reviewed scientific paper...

    According to a peer reviewed scientific paper from 2019, Albanians in Macedonia have ~35% of E-V13, somewhere ~18% R1b and ~13.6% J2b2.

    This paper is more reliable. :)
  21. I think the Urnfield theory makes sense. It...

    I think the Urnfield theory makes sense.

    It looks like there were two waves of Italic people into Italian peninsula, one before the Late Bronze Age and the second one with the Late Bronze Age...
  22. Well, we already have a name for that deeply...

    Well, we already have a name for that deeply splitting lineages, or pre-bottleneck and we call it Ancentral North African, ANA.
  23. Thread: E-a24066

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    Aspurg, i don't agree with you at that point. ...

    Aspurg, i don't agree with you at that point.

    The distinctive Glasinac symbol was the chariot with the water birds, very unique during Late Bronze Age - Early Iron Age among Urnfield-related...
  24. It looks like Ancient Egypt was already divided...

    It looks like Ancient Egypt was already divided between Nordicists and Afrocentrists.

    Because according to the paper Ancient Egyptians so far are a mix of Celtic-R1b and Bantuid E1b. :laughing:
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    I think that the Illyrians or atleast the...

    I think that the Illyrians or atleast the Urnfield group who heavily influenced Illyrians came from Middle Danube Urnfield group while the Thracians received their influence from Gava related...
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