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  1. And i never said that J2b2-L283 was common among...

    And i never said that J2b2-L283 was common among Etruscans.
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    I do tend to believe that tribes related to...

    I do tend to believe that tribes related to Trebeniste Culture spoke Albanoid language, and based on material culture and some personal names Dardanians do seem to be distantly related to Trebeniste...
  3. Thread: V13* or CTS5856*

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    As i said before, there were probably some...

    As i said before, there were probably some earlier groups already present in Central Balkans and the southernmost was probably Brnjica Culture who archeologically are known for being one of the first...
  4. I trust their studies as much as i trust my ass...

    I trust their studies as much as i trust my ass on a long trip.
  5. Not much difference in TMRCA to be considered as...

    Not much difference in TMRCA to be considered as separate waves.
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    Still, it doesn't change anything that...

    Still, it doesn't change anything that Dardania/Paeonia was likely the homeland.
  7. It doesn't look so. We have far more J2b2 among...

    It doesn't look so. We have far more J2b2 among Nuragics than Etruscans. So that means the flow was not via Urnfield but from Eastern Adriatic => Western Adriatic => Tyrrhenian Sea.
  8. So, how does this correlate with archeological...

    So, how does this correlate with archeological records, who were the Central European Urnfielders which the Proto-Villanovan culture was supposedly a descendeant of?

    If all Etruscan R1b and G2a...
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    Why Western Romania when the most Proto-Albanian...

    Why Western Romania when the most Proto-Albanian sounding words/names are to be found in what was ancient Dardania/Paeonia.:thinking:
  10. I don't even take them so serious, the autosomal...

    I don't even take them so serious, the autosomal models.

    It's because of very simple and not so smart algorithms at comparing such complex genomes as autosomal.

    It's clear why they plot more...
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    What if there were groups that spoke more than...

    What if there were groups that spoke more than just Daco-Thracian?
  12. Did someone check if Etruscan G2a subclades and...

    Did someone check if Etruscan G2a subclades and the recent samples from Croatian Encrusted Pottery Culture G2a subclades have relations?
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    But then again, i don't think a Central Balkans...

    But then again, i don't think a Central Balkans Albanoid language was vastly different from Thracian/Illyrian. It must have shared an Early/Middle Bronze Age common ancestor with either both or one...
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    There was two waves of inter-related cultures...

    There was two waves of inter-related cultures which spread deeper in Balkans, the second one is the Gava/Channeled Ware Culture.
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    No, i am not, was just wondering whether we are...

    No, i am not, was just wondering whether we are looking at the same data: https://www.yfull.com/samples-from-paper/540/?page=2

    From page 2 onwards we have J1, J2, and Q, R which probably is mostly...
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    Hmm, what do you mean by no J2a, change the page...

    Hmm, what do you mean by no J2a, change the page number, there is a lot of J2a and R1b-Z2103 as well.
  17. I agree with you, one of the main points which...

    I agree with you, one of the main points which interests me from the paper is the Bronze Age to Iron Age expansion of E-V13. A lot of things discussed were spamming the thread. Ironically, the same...
  18. What are the autosomal affinities of this sample?...

    What are the autosomal affinities of this sample?

    VEN008Venosa (Potenza, Basilicata)660-766 CES.Italy_Venosa H6c E1b1b1a1b1L618
  19. I just realized that J2b2-L283 among Etruscans...

    I just realized that J2b2-L283 among Etruscans was only 1 sample, the one it got initially revealed probably. So, they were heavily R1b with G2a (I assume a scenario were the G2a imposed their...
  20. Too much R1b in a supposedly non IE speaking...

    Too much R1b in a supposedly non IE speaking people. Something doesn't sum up.
  21. Why Celts/Germanics when their influence was not...

    Why Celts/Germanics when their influence was not nearly as much as Slavic migrations. As i said it can reach up to ~30% with averaged probably being somewhere closer to ~25%. It is what it is....
  22. I think approximately ~20-25% Slavic input among...

    I think approximately ~20-25% Slavic input among Albanians and Northern Greeks make sense, it's more reasonable, in some cases up to ~30%. Otherwise the ancient Balkan samples clustering closer with...
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    MIDDLE BRONZE AGE EQUALS TUMULUS CULTURE? - NEW...

    MIDDLE BRONZE AGE EQUALS TUMULUS CULTURE? - NEW MIDDLE BRONZE AGE BURIALS FROM SOUTHERN BAVARIA
    Abstract author(s): Massy, Ken (LMU Munich)
    Southern Bavaria was one of the main areas to define the...
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    Riverman, according to Harry Mountain...

    Riverman, according to Harry Mountain Dacian-Getae were influenced by HugelgraberKultur/Tumulus-Urnfield Culture during 15-12 century B.C. You still didn't solve the whole puzzle. In fact, you are...
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    You should read more about the Koszider hoards,...

    You should read more about the Koszider hoards, because that's the context of influence on formation of Illyrians. Also:
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